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jackbl
23-09-2012, 12:33 PM
American guilt
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HANOI – We were standing beside the statue of V.I. Lenin on a steamy afternoon, my boy with his skateboard and me with my thoughts. A large floral arrangement had been erected in the square to herald National Day, the latest obstruction to cramp the style of boys and men playing football and older folks playing badminton – and, sadly, the skaters, too.


Amid the frenetic scene, a gray-haired woman on crutches and a single leg, the other amputated at mid-thigh, came into view. She wore a flowered silk outfit that Westerners liken to pajamas. She inched along, as if oblivious to the frenetic footballers around her, and the young men simply played on, as if she wasn't there.

She made me think of Gracie, and of an expat sensation that, in Vietnam, is as American as apple pie: guilt.

Actually, I don’t know the woman’s name. A friend of mine dubbed her Gracie after reading a draft of an essay I wrote more than a year ago; it has been rejected once, so let’s call it a work in slow progress. Here’s how it begins:

She was slender and pretty and would have looked elegant even if she hadn’t been standing outside Gucci. Her blouse was silk and simple. She was not a shopper.

If courage is grace under pressure, this forty-something woman wore it well.

It was in her smile and the way her eyes met mine. It was in the way she carried herself, figuratively and literally, on two metal canes and a single leg, the other having been amputated close to her hip…

The narrative meandered off in an effort to describe the cognitive dissonance that greets newcomers to Vietnam – about Gucci in the land of women who wear conical hats and shoulder the yoke-like gánh, and, yes, about my patriotic brand of guilt.

I couldn’t help but wonder whether this woman was a victim of the landmines and ordnance that still lethally pollutes much of rural Vietnam. On my first visit to Vietnam, reporting about an American charity that recycles donated wheelchairs to struggling countries, I encountered dozens of Vietnamese who, long after 1975, were crippled by the explosives America left behind, as well as dozens whose birth defects were said to be the result of Agent Orange.

Of course I figured she would ask for money. She was graceful about that, too, a lilt in her English.

“Excuse me, are you living in Hanoi or visiting?” and “Where are you from?” and “Do you like Vietnam?” Her eyes never left mine – yet she seemed to sense Gucci’s security guard approaching at a just-doing-my-job pace.

“You see my circumstance,” she said quickly. She pulled a plastic bag from her purse. “I am selling mangoes. Will you buy two mangoes from me?”

Three minutes later, I was in my wife’s office, explaining how I’d just paid 100,000 dong for two mangoes – about $5, or perhaps six times the going rate on the street. Oanh laughed. For all I really knew, she pointed out, the woman might have lost her leg in Hanoi’s dangerous traffic and because of substandard medical care – that I was paying the premium for American guilt...

Well, OK, but so what? Her circumstances were her circumstances. In another country, I may have bought the mangoes for that alone. She was not playing the American angle. My experience, one shared by many, is that the Vietnamese evince little or no grudge to the mighty nation that exploited their land as the chief battleground in the global struggle of capitalism and communism.

But why was I so shy with the mango peddler? Reporters ask intrusive questions all the time. I left my wife’s office and went to the street to look for the woman with one leg and ask the obvious questions. It had occurred to me that landmine victims were country people. Her English and elegance spoke of the city. Yes, probably just a traffic accident...

Then another thought occurred to me: the “Christmas bombings” of 1972 that hammered Hanoi and Hai Phong. She’d have been a young child then. The attacks were a tactic of negotiations – a brutal prelude to what President Nixon called “peace with honor” – a phrase that Americans wanted to hear.

She was gone – but I figured I was bound to bump into her again. She must be a regular around Hoan Kiem Lake, looking for foreigners willing to buy overpriced fruit.

More than a year later, I still haven’t seen Gracie, and I still don’t know her story. But that’s what I was thinking about as I watched the old woman with one leg labor across Lenin Square. In 1972, she’d have probably been in her 20s.

jackbl
23-09-2012, 12:35 PM
Food for tomorrow
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Saving has always been important in Vietnam. When people have a lot of food today, they tend to save some for tomorrow.

During the long winter, Vietnamese people (especially in the north) like to prepare food in bulk ahead of time -- enough to get them through weeks or even months.

Even today, cooks tend to opt for dishes that can get families through hard times and thrifty moms tend to use their down time to prepare fermented sauces and dried meats for the future.

Ruoc (cha bong in the south), muoi vung, muoi lac are three popular dishes designed to preserve a family through hard times.

Ruoc begins with fresh lean pork, chicken sauteed with fish sauce or steamed fish or shrimp.

(For fish and shrimp, fish sauce should be added after the steaming process).

After cooking, these ingredients are pounded by mortar and pestle and stirred evenly over a hot pan again until the fish sauce evaporates and the mixture becomes very dry.

In the past, ruoc was a precious food normally made for special members of family such as old people and children (especially in big families where food was streched thin. In such households, a jar of ruoc was usually hidden away for special needs.

Even today, ruoc served over hot steamed rice remains a cherished treat on cold winter days in the north.

Muoi lac and muoi vung were considered cheaper and suitable for everybone in the family.

Both dishes are derived from fried groundnut and sesame. To make muoi lac and muoi vung, the roasted nuts and seeds are ground, mixed with salt and then toasted again over a hot pan.

All of these dried items are usually stored in a glass jar for later use. They go well with steamed rice, xoi (sticky rice), com nam (rice cakes), and porridge. Traditionally, they're eaten with boiled vegetables and bowl of broth

Nowadays the dishes serve as a quick healthy solution for those who don't have time to cook much.

During years of scarcity and subsidy in Vietnam, these dishes sustained whole families. They continue to be given as a small gift from parents to children student who live on university campuses.

'Food for storm'

Before refridgeration, many families relied on dried ingredients such as green lentils to get them through hard times.

In the old days, in summer, before stormy days my mother would make gia (green bean sprouts) just in case we could not go to the market to buy food.

A big pot of gia is made from just a small bowl of green beans and water. It provides enough food to get you through the worst storms.

In the south, gia is a very important ingredient.

It's served with many snacks such as hu tieu noodles, bun ca (fish noodle soup ), banh xeo pancake and banh cuon( rice pancake). People in the south also make pickles from gia and serve it as a side dish to balance fried or grilled pork dishes

Nowadays, many gia makers use nasty preservatives; as a result, it can be a good idea to make bean sprouts at home.

How to make gia

Begin by soaking a small bowl of green beans in cold water for one day. After that, put them in a big ceramic pot which has a small cover.

Layer fresh bamboo leaves over each layer of green beans (the final bamboo leaves on the surface should be the thickest).

This ceramic pot must be put in a dark place where the sunlight cannot reach and covered with heavy piece of wood.

Every morning, remove the wood and rinse the contents of the pot for fifteen minutes. After that, drain the pot and return it to the shelf with the heavy wood block. After three or four days, gia will grow.

In the past, many children spent their Sundays helping their mothers prepare ruoc, muoi vung, muoi lac and gia do. For many of these children, watching raw ingredients become permanant staples provided their first "science lesson" -- a passtime that helped capture their young imaginations.

By To Van Nga

jackbl
23-09-2012, 12:38 PM
The power of sour
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Sour flavors play an important role in Vietnamese cuisine.

In the summer time, appetites are lost due to heat and humidity. Yet naturally sour foods tend to refresh a meal.

On special occasions such as Tet (Lunar new year) or other feasts, sour flavors tend to balance rich protein dishes.

My grandmother always told me that its impotant for every meal to contain multiple tastes including sour, spicy, sweet and salty.

For thousands of years, Vietnamese cooks have known how to create sour pickles or use naturally sour fruits and vegetables to balance their meals.

Nom and goi (traditional Vietnamese salad)

Nom is a northern dish made of green papaya or banana flower. To make nom, one must begin by thinly slicing the ingredients and rinsing to release their bitter taste. After squeezing them by hand, add lime juice, sugar, fish sauce, a bit of chili and fresh herb. Finally, add ground roasted nuts or sesame to provide a crunchy texture.

Nom is an important dish, particularly on special occasions in the North. Nowadays, in Hanoi, people can buy nom as a snack in the Old quarter (nom bo kho, or green papaya salad with dried beef).

In the South, people make goi by shredding mango or pomelo and tossing the fruit in a mix of fish sauce, fresh chilies and lime juice. Shredded steamed shrimp or chicken and herbs give the dish multiple textures and flavors .

Dua (pickle)

Dua is a vegetable dish made of different kinds of cabbage, or bean sprouts.

It takes several days to make dua. First of all, the cabbage and sprouts must be washed and dried in the sun.

Dua may consist of whole or minced vegetables, depending on your taste. After rinsing and cutting the vegetable, place it in a ceramic pot filled with warm saltwater (enough to cover the vegetabe), a bit sugar and spring onion.

A clean bamboo fan should be set on top of the mixture to ensure the vegetable remains submerged. After some days, natural bacteria will give the vegetable a delicious yellow hue and sour taste.

Dua is a popular dish for ordinary meals in northern Vietnam. Nowadays, one can buy this dish at any market.

Canh chua (sour soup)

Canh chua (sour soup) is a famous dish in both the North and South of Vietnam. Using sour vegetables and fruits, mothers and grandmothers cook simple but nice sour soups that accompany rice well.

During the summer in Hanoi, people like to boil morning glory and add sour flavor to the soup with lime juice or boiled sau (a summer sour fruit in north of Vietnam).

Canh chua ca is a famous traditional sour soup made of fish and sour fruits such as green mango or pineapple, spring onions and fresh herbs.

jackbl
23-09-2012, 12:39 PM
Breakfast for a hurried morning
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It is undeniable that breakfast is the most important meal of the day. Nutritionists advise never to skip this first meal in the morning, since it provides energy to kick start a long working day. As life gets busier, it has become too luxurious for many to sit down, have a bowl of pho and drink ca phe sua da in the morning. However, in Vietnam, you still can have a healthy and tasty breakfast as takeaway, to bring to school or the office, or just to take a bite while you’re driving (some actually do so).


The most popular street food for breakfast is probably banh mi, or Vietnamese bread filled with pork liver pâté and mayonnaise combined with herbs and pickles. If you do not want to go with the tradition, you can choose other fillings like ca moi (canned sardine), bi (pork skin), thit nuong (Vietnamese marinated grilled pork), thit nguoi (cured pork cold cuts) or xa xiu (pork cooked in the style of Chinese BBQ). In Ho Chi Minh City, you actually can find banh mi carts anywhere. As soon as you step out of your house, a banh mi lady will immediately wave and smile at you. And before you arrive at her cart, she will have already finished making the banh mi in your style.

If you prefer quality over quantity, try Banh Mi Nhu Lan or Banh Mi Ha Noi for an unforgettable taste of this Vietnamese bread. Last June, banh mi was listed as one of the most lip-smacking street foods around the world by Lonely Planet. Consider how lucky you are to have one of the world’s most delicious dishes as breakfast for less than 50 US cents!

Although not as popular as banh mi, xoi or sticky rice is also a cheap and popular choice on a busy morning. There are two kinds of sticky rice: xoi man (savory) and xoi ngot (sweet). For the former, xoi ga, or sticky rice with chicken -- shredded meat, fried wing or thigh, is the all time favorite. If you want a sweet start in the morning, xoi gac (made with gac fruit), xoi bap (made with corn) or xoi vo (coated with ground peeled-and-boiled mung beans) will surely please your hungry stomach. Like banh mi, sticky rice can be found on any corner in the city or in chain shops like Xoi Che on Bui Thi Xuan Street or Xoi La Chuoi on Tran Hung Dao Street.

Last but not least, a variety of banh can fit in your bag and fill you up in the morning. Banh bao, or steamed bun, is perfect for a cold morning. Especially when winter is approaching, there is nothing like taking a bite of a warm bun filled with juicy meat. Also a hot dish, banh gio is a kind of pyramid-shaped rice dough dumpling filled with pork, shallot, and wood ear mushroom. Banh chung (square glutinous rice cake) and banh day (round glutinous rice cake) are traditional delicacies which used to be served only during the Tet holiday, but now have become a year-round dish for morning takeaway.

Banh cuon, a crêpe-like roll made using a thin, wide sheet of rolled rice flour filled with ground pork and various kinds of mushrooms is a light and healthy breakfast dish. Once only served at street stands, this tasty dish now can be packed into a box, including a pair of bamboo chopsticks. As banh cuon is served with nuoc mam, or fish sauce, make sure not to eat this tasty breakfast in the middle of your office, or your colleagues may experience a distracting morning at work!

jackbl
23-09-2012, 12:41 PM
Nearly 200 Buddhist temples cheated by a woman
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VietNamNet Bridge – A 40-year-old woman called herself a member of charity societies to swindle nearly 200 temples in northern provinces.

Police of the northern province of Hung Yen have arrested Nguyen Thi Thanh, 40, from Yen My district, Hung Yen province, for cheating Buddhist monks.

Thanh used false documents to disguise herself as a representative of charity society and disadvantaged people’s associations to come to temples to ask for donation.

The woman had successfully swindled nearly 200 monks who manage temples in Hung Yen, Hai Duong, Quang Ninh, Hanoi, etc. for tens of thousands of US dollars until she was arrested on September 29, at a temple in Khoai Chau district, Hung Yen province.

When she was arrested, the woman took with her a lot of personal papers, with different names.

The woman confessed that she disguised herself as a representative of the blind’s association to sell toothpicks. However, earnings from this job was not much so she used faked documents to turn herself into an official of charity societies and disadvantaged people’s associations to raise fund from a lot of Buddhist temples in northern provinces.

Thanh said with false documents, she could raise from VND1 million to VND10 million ($50-500) from each pagoda.

Many temples wished to raise orphans so this woman made faked files of orphans to cheat money from temples.

The woman confessed that she swindled around 200 pagodas in many provinces and cities to appropriate hundreds of millions of dong (tens of thousands of US dollars).

Compiled by Nam Nguyen

jackbl
23-09-2012, 12:42 PM
Girl sells her hair to start school
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VietNamNet Bridge – A poor girl in Da Nang city had to sell her four-year hair for VND500,000 ($25) to pay fees for starting high school.

Vo Nguyen Hoang Chi, 15, in An Khe Ward, Thanh Khe district, Da Nang, returned home from the first school day on September 5 with her sad face. “My friends asked me why I cut my beautiful hair,” she told her mother. They looked at each others by tearful eyes.

Ms. Nguyen Thi Hue, 50, said: “My family is poor. Chi loves me so she decided to sell her hair to pay school fees to enter the 10th class of the Thanh Khe district education center. She looked normal on the day she sold her hair but she cried at night.”

Graduating from the secondary school, Chi took an exam to Nguyen Thuong Hien high school but she failed. She has to move to Thanh Khe district education center. However, she was informed to pay four months of school fees in advance.

Chi had consulted her mother before she sold her hair for VND500,000. She paid VND325,000 of school fees and spent the remaining money in buying books and studying tools for herself and her younger brother, a 5th grade student.

Chi’s mother works for a banh beo (rice cake) restaurant while her father is a xe om (motorbike taxi driver). They work very hard but they cannot escape from poverty. Chi and her brother went to school by an old bicycle. Chi took her brother to his school in the morning. The boy came back home on foot on the afternoon.

Two months ago, Chi’s father committed assets appropriation and was arrested for four months for investigation. The family is in bigger trouble.

Knowing that Chi sold her hair to pay the school fee, the local women’s association asked the ward government to recognize Chi’s family as poor so they would enjoy social welfare. However, the family does not meet criteria to be considered as a poor household. The local administration gave Chi VND500,000 to prepare for the new school year. It also asked the schools where Chi and her brother study to exempt or reduce school fees for them.

Chi said she was not sad because her hair would grow longer. “I will seek an extra job to help my mum,” she said.

Compiled by L. Ha

jackbl
23-09-2012, 12:46 PM
Sex in border areas: P1 The Cheap Flesh Market
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In this series, Tuoi Tre investigative journalists report on prostitution in Chinese towns bordering Vietnam; Vietnamese women being forced into the flesh market; and trafficking rings, among other issues.


We visited an area known as “Xam Cao” in Dongxing town, in Guangxi province on the border with Mong Cai of Vietnam.

Once home to many brick kilns, Xam Cao is now a run-down place Vietnamese and Chinese traders visit for cheap sex.

Pretending to be clients, we visited a girl who, after inviting us into her compartment, immediately reminded us to “pay the money as the compartment has been opened”. By this, she meant that since we had already entered her ‘room’, we had to pay no matter what happened.

We then promised to buy three sessions costing VND600,000 in total, after which her sad and exhausted face suddenly brightened. Here, one session lasts around 30 minutes and costs VND200,000, or US$10.

Whenever we asked a question, the girl replied in short, blunt answers. But in the end, we managed to learn that her name is Nga and that she is from Nam Dinh Province in northern Vietnam.

Asked if she voluntarily came to China for this job, Nga replied that she had been tricked by a Hanoi man, adding that she spent one year as a hotel prostitute in Vietnam before becoming unwanted and drifting to the other side of the border to work.

“Who wants to come here?”, she asked us.

Nga’s boss is from the same Nam Dinh hometown, we learned. She too was once tricked but later lived with a Chinese pimp and became a procuress herself.

After talking with Nga we continued exploring the area. The red light districts in Dongxing cater to both rich and poor classes. Most hotels have their own prostitutes on offer, but if they don’t clients can order them from other hotels.

Even the hotel adjacent to the restaurant we had lunch at had some 10 Vietnamese girls on hand. While enjoying the meal, the restaurant owner came over and told us “after drinking, just drop by that hotel to be served by the girls. No need to go anywhere else”.

Disguised brothels mostly come in the form of barber shops and massage parlors. Whenever we walked around, women in skimpy outfits surrounded us. When our local guide stopped us at a place he knew, one Chinese woman whisked us in.

Inside, behind a living room only small enough to contain a table and several chairs, were a series of small compartments, some with the curtains closed. The covered compartments indicate they are occupied with clients.

In Dongxing even female tram drivers are ready to recommend places where you can buy sex. We were told that China’s one-child policy and the tradition of favoring sons has led to an imbalance between the sexes, so when the indigenous supply of women ran out, Vietnamese women filled in.

More flesh markets

After leaving the red light districts in Dongxing, we took a bus to Jiangping - another town in Guangxi Province.

We were on an old bus around noon when three cute girls, probably no older than 18, stepped on. As they were hemmed in by six big men, we took a wild guess that they were prostitutes on the way to their clients or back to their brothel home.

At another town, Linh Coong, we met a 17-year-old Vietnamese girl named Nghiem Thi Thu. Thu boasts clear, fair skin, sparkling eyes and a slender body on a 1.6m tall frame. She has been working in the town for nearly a year.

We learned that she was tricked, along with three others girls, into prostitution. Now, Thu is the most sought-after girl in Linh Coong’s massage parlor, serving up to 40 guests per day.

The parlor is run by a 50-year-old Vietnamese woman from the northern province of Bac Giang. She too was once sold to a Chinese man for marriage.

At 7am, three girls called Thu, Ly and Phuong, wearing tight shorts and revealing clothes, sat in front of the shop and waved at guests passing by.

Tuoi Tre learned that they rarely get enough sleep, while their managers earn dozens of millions of dong per day. (VND10 million = $500).

To be continued

jackbl
23-09-2012, 12:50 PM
Incredible tricks of Saigon robbers
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VietNamNet Bridge – Meeting with VietNamNet’s reporters at the police station of Ben Thanh Ward, District 1, Ho Chi Minh City, Singaporean tourist Melissa Koh, 34, said in Vietnamese with a slight accent: "So fast ...! so daredevil! ... ". She then turned to two security guards at the Ben Thanh Market to continuously say "thank you."



Robbery targeting foreign tourists

Melissa said that she walked to see the streets of Saigon in late afternoon. Upon arrival at the intersection of Le Thanh Ton - Phan Boi Chau in Ben Thanh Ward, District 1, a young man driving a motorcycle unexpectedly came from behind to jerk away her wallet, with a cell phone, VND800,000 ($40), US$80, two credit cards, etc. and sped up to escape.

Hearing Melissa’s scream for help, two security guards at the Ben Thanh market - Nguyen Van Phu and Do Tran Thanh Binh - immediately chased the robber.

The two guards promptly caught, controlled the robber and transferred him to the police. At the police station, he admitted himself as Chau Tan Hoa, 35, from District 10.

Upon receipt of the property, Melissa Koh was very happy and constantly embarked thank the two security guards of Ben Thanh Market.

However, lucky victims like Melissa are not many, especially when robbery targeting foreign tourists occurs very often in the center of Ho Chi Minh City.

An urban inspector of District 1 who guards at the 23/9 park told VietNamNet reporters that at the intersection of Pham Hong Thai - Truong Dinh - Le Lai, robbery against foreign tourists occur everyday.

Previously, many foreign tourists were robbed when they got out of the Ben Thanh Market. Recently, the guard and volunteer forces at the market has been strengthened, robbery at this are has been curbed remarkably.

However, when visitors leaving Ben Thanh Market area to the roads like Tran Hung Dao, Pham Ngu Lao, Nguyen Hue, they immediately become victims of robbery.

Another typical case that VietNamNet reported before is the case of Yan Kit Kay and Ka Kei Doris, 24, from Hong Kong whose assets were robbed at night in December 2011 on a street in Binh Thanh District.

Their tragedy caused a stir among the public opinion when they were penniless and lost their personal documents. The couple had to stay with some good-hearted people and sell postcards on Pham Ngu Lao Street to survive and to earn money to return home.

Finally, the two were lucky to get back their personal papers to return home. Before leaving Vietnam, Yan Kit Kay told reporters: "I have been to many countries, but I have to say that robbery in HCM City is too terrible!"

Not only aiming at foreign tourists in the hub of Ho Chi Minh City, local people are also victims of robbery.

Ho Chi Minh City police have arrested many robbery gangs but local people are still very frightened when they go out at night.

Tricks of robbers

According to a report of the HCM City Police Agency at the recent meeting to review anti-crime against foreigners in the central area of Ho Chi Minh City, on average, there are about 20 cases of assets infringement related to foreigners, including 16 cases of robbery.

However, this is only the number of cases that the police was reported by the victims.

Anh Tuan, a guard at the parking lot at Nguyen Trung Truc - Le Thanh Ton intersection, District 1, said that robbery against tourists usually occurs at dusk. Robbers usually go in pair, sometimes alone. They use motorbikes to approach the victim to snatch their handbags, necklaces, cell phones, etc. then run away.

Many volunteers told VietNamNet that robbers use various tricks to rob foreigners.

Specifically, a number of criminals stand around tourist attractions like the Notre Dame Cathedral, Nguyen Hue roundabout, 23/9 Park, in front of shopping malls to snatch cameras in the hands of foreign visitors and then run away with their accomplices who wait on a motorcycle.

In some cases, travelers place their camera in a fixed position to use the automatic mode; robbers snatch the camera and run away.

But the most popular trick is snatching bags, necklaces and cell phones of foreigners who are walking on the road. There are some cases that the victim resisted robbers and they were assaulted by robbers.

Talking with VietNamNet, "street knight" Nguyen Van Minh Tien, who caught many robbers, and reconnaissance policemen of the HCM City special task forces said that there are three ways to recognize robbers.

The first type: they do not drive much, only stand on the sidewalk pretending to buy food and drinks or read books but actually they observe victims.

The second type: they often drive on the road to find victims.

The third type: they disguise themselves as very smart people. They do not stare at their prey, they just glance and rob if their victims are careless.

Most of robbers in the heart of Ho Chi Minh City belong to the third category, which is very difficult to detect.

Notably, when arresting these robbers, the police seized a lot of weapons such as teargas sprayers, iron tube, knives, electric clubs, etc. from them, which they claimed to use for "self defense." However, when they are resisted by the victims, they reveal as extremely dangerous robbers.

Some robbers are also drug addicts. According to the police’s statistics, of 10 arrests, up to 7-8 robbers are drug addicts.

Dam De - Nguyen Oanh

jackbl
23-09-2012, 02:00 PM
I was told by my fren that his fren got caught speeding in hcmc, fined 1mil dong and motor seized and hold for 10 days :eek: :rolleyes:

Drunk, speeding drivers get much heavier fine
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Under a new decree of the Government, drunk and speeding drivers will face fines that are much higher than current rates.

According to Decree 71 that amends Decree 34, drunk drivers of motorbikes will face a fine of VND500,000-1 million (US$48) if they are found to have alcohol levels of 0.25 mg per liter of breath, or 50 mg per 100 ml of blood. Currently, the fines are just VND200,000-400,000.

With alcohol levels of over 0.4 mg per liter of breath, or 80 mg per 100 ml of blood, the new fines for motorbike drivers will range from VND2-3 million, instead of VND500-1 million as present.

As for car drivers, the fines will increase from the current 2-3 million to VND8-10 million for drivers with alcohol levels of 0.25 mg per liter of breath. In case the alcohol levels are over 0.4 mg per liter of breath, the fine will be VND10-15 million.

The new decree also stipulates new fines for speeding. Accordingly, a fine of VND600,000-800,000 is applied to drivers of cars that travel 5-10 km/h faster than the allowed speed. Currently, the fine for this violation is just VND300,000-500,000.

As for cars that move 10-20 km higher than the limit, the fine ranges from VND2-3 million, compared to the current VND800,000-1.2 million.

In case cars run 35 km/h faster than allowed, the fine is VND8-10 million, much higher than the current 4-6 million, and the car’s driver will have his driving license kept by police for 60 days.

As for drivers of motorbikes, a new fine VND500,000-1 million is applied to those who travel 10-20 km/h over the limit. And for those who run over 20 km/h higher than allowed, a new fine of VND2 - 3 million will be applied, instead of the current VND500,000-1 million.

jackbl
23-09-2012, 02:09 PM
Most of the police will take bribe but these people are too "xui" to get caught.....

Former cop gets 3 years for taking bribe
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The Thanh Hoa Province People’s Court has sentenced a former traffic police officer and his two accomplices for taking a bribe of US$240 from a truck driver who had violated traffic rule last year.

This bribery case was exposed in an investigative article published in Tuoi Tre’s Vietnamese-language daily newspaper in early September 2011.

The exposé article, written by Nguyen Van Khuong (with pen name Hoang Khuong), was also published in English with the title “Cops blatantly take bribes, threaten drivers” on TuoiTreNews (tuoitrenews.vn) on September 6, 2011.

It was thanks to the article that led to the detention and prosecution of those involved.

At their trial yesterday, former major Le Hong Duan, 37, was sentenced to 3 years in jail while former lieutenant Nguyen Thanh Hai, 27, and Nguyen Van Doi, a local man, 49, received 30 and 24 months imprisonment respectively.

The court ordered the three defendants to return the VND5 million to Ho Tan Phuong, the owner of the truck, who had been forced to pay the bribe.

According to indictment, Duan illegally set up a checkpoint in front of Doi’s house in Tinh Gia District on July 31, 2011 to monitor vehicles travelling on National Highway 1A.

Hai stopped an overloaded truck driven by Nguyen Van Tinh and discovered that Tinh was carrying a kind of wood more precious than shown on his transport paper.

Tinh offered Hai VND200,000 ($10), begging him to ignore the violation, but Hai insisted that Tinh had to pay VND5 million.

Tinh called Phuong who arrived at the scene but since Phuong did not bring enough money with him, Doi suggested that he could give Phuong a VND5 million loan with a 10% daily interest rate (VND500,000 per day).

Phuong had no other choice than to take the loan.

Accompanying this truck, Nguyen Van Khuong (pen name Hoang Khuong) secretly recorded all details of the case and published them in his above-mentioned exposé article.

jackbl
23-09-2012, 02:21 PM
Female rickshaw pullers in border areas
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From every early morning, a group of women gathers at Lao Bao international border gate in the central province of Quang Tri to be employed to transport goods using hand-pulled rickshaws.

From Wikipedia, hand-pulled rickshaw is defined as a mode of human-powered transport by which a runner draws a two-wheeled cart which seats one or two persons. In fact, this kind of rickshaw is no longer in use in Vietnam and has been mainly replaced by cycle rickshaw or xích-lô (pedicab).

However, everyone can see the hand-pulled two-wheeled cart at Lao Bao gate that connects Vietnam and Laos. Different from the traditional rickshaw, the latter is mainly used for transporting goods and pulled by the weaker sex.

Every 7:00am, a group of women, most of them hail from Van Kieu ethnic minority, gathers at the gate to be hired to transport a wide range of goods from Quang Tri to Karol market in Laos and conversely in order to eke out a living.

They are paid from VND40,000 (US$2) to VND100,000 ($5) for each delivery.

Among the pullers is Ho Thi Tem, who is eight months pregnant. Tem’s husband has abandoned her and four their children to get married with another woman.

Despite her late-term pregnancy, the 28-year-old daily draws rickshaw to feed her children, the eldest of whom is about nine year olds.

jackbl
23-09-2012, 02:24 PM
Preventing crime in the city
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The victim of a deadly recent laptop snatching case, 22-year old Hoang Ngoc Tri, was a young graduate who had dreams, ambitions and an aspiration to contribute to society. But he had to leave this life, leave the people he loves after being stabbed several times right in the middle of a Saigon street.

This is not the first time a daytime robbery has happened in the city. The stubbornness, recklessness, disregard of the law, personal belongings and people’s lives have led to the robbers’ fierce and inhuman acts. They have left people in grief, puzzled and indignant.

What we should also be concerned about is that the age of the criminals is becoming younger and younger. At 28, Cao Xuan Lap should be trusted as the pillar in his family and contribute to social development. However, he became a robber, carried a knife, rode a bike, and snatched on the street. He did not hesitate to snuff someone out if he was hindered. Now that Lap has to face a strict sentence, embarrassing his family, did he think of the consequences for himself, for the victim, families and community?

In the turbulence, there were heroes who did not turn their back to the crime, who shouted out loud and besieged the robber. I want to thank the police captain Vo Sy Hoang, from the Tan Phu District Police, who reacted in time and traced down the daredevil robber. Hoang’s braveness and a young man’s courageous act of running into the robber’s bike have proved a spirit to fight for justice that has existed for a long time, throughout our history.

Had it not been for heroic acts like these, the process of fighting and preventing evil would only exist as slogans. If each and every person in society knows how to care for each other, is alert and ready to fight and prevent evils, the robbers cannot carry out their filthy acts. We also need the involvement of the authorities, to reinforce laws to warn and punish criminals, so as to maintain a peaceful life for the citizens.

jackbl
23-09-2012, 03:05 PM
Sex in border areas: P2 Wife sold for $1,500
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Tuoi Tre continues its investigation into Vietnamese women forced into sexual slavery in China. First, we start with Nghiem Thi Thu, the 17-year-old girl from Part 1 of the series. She was sold by her de facto husband for as little as US$1,500.

In mid-2010, Thu, from Vinh Tuong district, Vinh Phuc province, met a boy named Nguyen Tu Anh, who was born in 1988 in the same province, online. The rural girl was immediately attracted to Anh, who she described as looking like a South Korean actor.

She was struck by love. Shortly after, the two held an online wedding ceremony and started to live together like husband and wife, though they had no official registration.

She had to play online games for six months, collecting virtual ‘gadgets’ which she could sell for real money, to earn enough money to buy a wedding dress and ring.

Before the 2011 lunar new year, Anh invited her to the Vietnam-China border with some of his friends for a romantic holiday. They all later turned out to be working for a human trafficking ring.

When they arrived at the border, they hired a local to take them through a secret shortcut to China, after which they hired a car to go to Nanning city of Guangxi province. Here, they joined a 50-year-old woman named Ngoc, whose real name is Nguyen Thi Bien and is from Bac Giang Province. Ngoc is a brothel keeper in reality, but at the time she appeared to just be a nice lady.

In tears, Thu confided to Tuoi Tre, “In Nanning, they told me to wait while they fetched some clothes…Tu Anh [her de facto ‘husband’] did not say a word”.

As she did not know she was a victim, Thu stayed at Ngoc’s house for several days, after which they took a car to Linh Coong.

It was in this town that she finally realized she had been sold to a brothel boss named Bach. Madam Bach is Vietnamese, and as mentioned in Part 1 also came from Bac Giang Province and was once sold to a Chinese man for marriage.

When Thu figured out what was going on, she tried to escape by climbing down a wall but was caught by her ‘boyfriend/husband’ and Cao Thi Hong Luong, who goes by the nickname 'fat' Linh.

Thu told Tuoi Tre that the two pushed her to the ground, after which blood spurted from her back. They slapped her while threatening, “if you try to escape again, we will slash your face and make you beg [for alms] on the street”.

The more she cried, the more violent the beatings were. They told her to stop crying as they explained that “crying is considered unlucky by the Chinese”.

They then left her with madam Bach after negotiating a price.

After locking Thu in a room for two days, Bach asked her to “go to work”.

When asked what kind of work, Bach bluntly replied “work as a prostitute. I bought you for VND100 million (US$5,000) for nothing?”

Bach threatened to let some pimps rape her and inject drugs into her if she did not ‘work’.

Thu later learned that she was actually sold for a cheap 10,000 yuan (roughly VND30 million, or $1,500, not VND100 million as claimed).



Three sold in 10 days

A few days after selling Thu, fat Linh and Anh [husband-turned-trafficker] succeeded in selling two more girls into Bach’s brothel.

21-year-old Vu Thuy Ly, one of the two said victims, hails from Thanh Hoa Province. Her family is very poor; her father is a manual worker while her mother is a farmer working in the field.

Ly told Tuoi Tre that she was an 18 year-old attending a junior college in Hanoi when she met Nguyen Tu Anh [the same handsome man who tricked Thu] and fat Linh, as well as another man called Tuan, via Internet chats.

They held offline meetings, used the same ploy and asked Ly to come to a market on the Vietnam-China border on a fully-paid trip. Ly agreed.

Ly subsequently discovered that they had taken another 18-year-old girl with them. The group arrived at Dong Dang town of Lang Son Province on December 23, 2010.

'Fat' Linh proved caring by buying two pairs of shoes for Ly and the other girl to cross over the border into China.

They spent the night at madam Ngoc’s house and then arrived at Bach’s brothel in the evening. In the morning, the two girls discovered that their friends had all left.

Sensing that something was amiss, the two insisted on going back to Vietnam, upon which Bach coldly retorted “Don’t you know you have been sold?” When they asked “sold for what?”, Bach smiled and replied “to be a prostitute for men to enjoy”.

When they begged her to let them go and promised to pay a ransom, Bach shouted “I bought you each for VND100 million. Can you pay?”

Within just 10 days, Anh and fat Linh had tricked and sold three women into sexual slavery.

To be continued................

ilovedoggie
23-09-2012, 07:17 PM
so you would like to keep this thread clean clean without any new post?

ok... i go vdict and search one , two , three and so on... so it is a kind of short form?

talking about communication... she don't understand eng or mandarin and i don't understand Viet. So have to start somewhere but some senior here very GL so i have to learn it the hard way

WHAT?:mad: like that is called GL???:confused::confused: u r expecting us to be your translator and spoonfeed u whenever u ask?

who on earth dont know 1 = one, 2 = two ?? then u just type in "one" into the vdick or your translator then u will hv your answer lor...

whatever... u just ask everything u want here someone will definitely tell u. and see if u can learn much. i hv nothing to say.

jackbl
24-09-2012, 03:08 AM
Sex in border areas: P3 Kidnap and abortion
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In Part 3 of this series, Tuoi Tre continues to explore human trafficking in border areas with the fates of more young victims, one of whom is Chu Thi Phuong of Ha Tinh Province, who was kidnapped in broad daylight when she was just 16 years old and had to undergo a forced abortion.

The mastermind behind the scheme is her boyfriend, who made her pregnant.

In a brothel managed by madam Ho in Linh Coong town of Guangdong province, 17-year-old Phuong is the youngest and the most sought-after, but also suffers the most beatings, as she always looks sad and often refuses to serve clients ‘to the fullest.’

Her dark days began in 2010, when she had to quit school in grade 9 and go to the city in search of work to support her bedridden father.

In Hai Duong province, she met Soi, a handsome, womanizing man who got her pregnant when she was just 16.

Soi often hung out with his jobless friends, the eldest of whom was Bui Van Giap, born in 1986 in Hai Duong. In August 2011, it was Giap who led the two others in kidnapping her while she was staying at a friend’s house in Tu Ky district.

When she refused, Giap took out a scimitar and threatened her. She was just two months, 10 days pregnant when she was forced onto a motorbike to be taken to an isolated house in the middle of a field in Quang Trung commune, Tu Ky district.

Here, Phuong met other girls being kept there.

They removed the battery from Phuong’s mobile phone and took her to Mong Cai border gate in Quang Ninh province, saying they needed to fetch some products there. They threatened to kill her if she refused.

On the night of August 28, 2011, upon reaching Mong Cai, she was made to cross the border and met a fat woman who took her into Dongxing town in Guangxi province where she was forced into a taxi, then a motorbike taxi.

They crossed a forest to arrive at Linh Coong in Guangdong.

At this point, the kidnappers still appeared to be nice, promising to take her home once they had collected some goods.

She was afterwards met by a Chinese man and Vietnamese woman who took her to a house where she rested and slept. When she woke up, her mobile phone and travelling companions were gone, and the Vietnamese woman shouted, “You have been sold. Why do you need a mobile phone?. Do you have 100,000 yuans [US$15,800] to pay me?”. She instructed several pimps to stand guard, not letting Phuong escape.

“But I am pregnant,” she cried.

Abortion

Upon hearing the news, the brothel manager frowned, talked to others for a time, then called someone on the phone. Phuong was sold the next day to a Chinese couple also in Linh Coong.

Phuong told Tuoi Tre that her buyers claimed to have paid VND150 million ($7,200) for her, but she actually had no idea about the exact price and suspected they had inflated it to enslave her for as long as possible.

Phuong was forced to have an abortion immediately, several days after which she was requested to serve clients. Due to insufficient recovery time, she developed infections and could not take in customers, hence angering the couple.

In this brothel, Phuong knew more Vietnamese girls with the same fate, like Linh, born in 1992 in Hanoi, or Trang, born in 1994 in Nam Dinh, Ha from Tuyen Quang…

The most deplorable case is probably Trinh, who was sold in August 2011, when she was just 14 years old. Trinh, whose parents went to jail for drugs, was born into a poor family in Thai Nguyen province.

Once out of money to pay for the Internet, she met Giap’s group, who promised to pay the Internet fee in return for her going out with them. Soon after, she was sold to a brothel in China.


Always speak Chinese

Nguyen Thi Thao, another victim, told Tuoi Tre that one of her friends was beaten to death at the age of 15 for refusing to take in customers.

Last year, Thao left her hometown in Hoa Binh province for Hanoi to find work where, similar to others, she fell in love with a Hanoi guy named Minh, who is in fact a human trafficker.

Minh tricked her into going to China and sold her into a brothel belonging to madam Xao, a Chinese woman who speaks some Vietnamese, in Linh Coong.

On her first day, Xao announced, “I bought you for 40,000 yuans (US$6,300). Try to work here for one and a half years, and then I’ll let you go home.”

Thao was kept in a small room with three other girls and was taught some basic Chinese sentences like “Welcome, handsome boss…do you use a condom? Who will pay?...”

The Chinese manager there - A Mai, Xao’s husband - told Thao that she must never reveal herself to be Vietnamese, even in front of Vietnamese customers, and always speak Chinese.

If anyone violates this rule, A Mai threatened to beat them, starve them and even sell them to crueler places.

To be continued ............

jspanky
24-09-2012, 05:31 AM
Thanks for sharing. Sad though. To save face the gov't not accepting WL profession will keep this going on.

jspanky
24-09-2012, 05:35 AM
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Sex in border areas: P1 The Cheap Flesh Market
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To be continued

Sex in border areas: P2 Wife sold for $1,500
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To be continued................

Sex in border areas: P3 Kidnap and abortion
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To be continued ............

yummyymym
24-09-2012, 05:00 PM
Guys need help on this translation

Thi a ko cam thay duoc khi toi buon luc toi vui dau...

Then you no feel when I sad (luc ) I not happy

vietboy
24-09-2012, 05:41 PM
Guys need help on this translation

Thi a ko cam thay duoc khi toi buon luc toi vui dau...

Then you no feel when I sad (luc ) I not happy

you try searched vdict yet?
hint: u can try the 1st luc that showed when u keyed in luc into vdict.

vietboy
24-09-2012, 05:57 PM
so you would like to keep this thread clean clean without any new post? :confused:

ok... i go vdict and search one , two , three and so on... so it is a kind of short form?

talking about communication... she don't understand eng or mandarin and i don't understand Viet. So have to start somewhere but some senior here very GL so i have to learn it the hard way :o

its not we wan to keep this thread clean without posts, it is we wanna keep this thread lean so it makes it easier for others to read and learn.

Dun think it is short form, its called alpha-numeric form.

FYI, we all also started off the hard way too. I believed most of the bros here all did not pay n engaged a proper tutor to learn TV. Most of us started off picking it up either through here, online dictionary and on the field. It takes time, effort and determination to learn a new langauge. Sometimes we are being poked fun and laughed at by the VBs for mispronouncing or misunderstand a particular word. But this is how we learn.

BTW, learning 1 to 10 is a great ice-breaker between u n the girl. ;)

raidz70
24-09-2012, 08:14 PM
WHAT?:mad: like that is called GL??? u r expecting us to be your translator and spoonfeed u whenever u ask?

who on earth dont know 1 = one, 2 = two ?? then u just type in "one" into the vdick or your translator then u will hv your answer lor...

whatever... u just ask everything u want here someone will definitely tell u. and see if u can learn much. i hv nothing to say.

its not we wan to keep this thread clean without posts, it is we wanna keep this thread lean so it makes it easier for others to read and learn.

Dun think it is short form, its called alpha-numeric form.

FYI, we all also started off the hard way too. I believed most of the bros here all did not pay n engaged a proper tutor to learn TV. Most of us started off picking it up either through here, online dictionary and on the field. It takes time, effort and determination to learn a new langauge. Sometimes we are being poked fun and laughed at by the VBs for mispronouncing or misunderstand a particular word. But this is how we learn.

BTW, learning 1 to 10 is a great ice-breaker between u n the girl. ;)

Sadly, i really don't know 1 = one then 2 = two :D that why if you give me some hint like it is a kind of short form or numeric form then i will know it.... Instead you are telling me blah blah blah blah.

Please accept my sincere apologise as i am rude or over sensitive here... :o

raidz70
24-09-2012, 08:21 PM
met qua khong bit co lam viec noi khong.


After doing my own homework, is she saying she is tired because of working? :o
Before that i was just asking her to go eat her dinner before work.

Please don't blast me... i am still on P plate or worst... not even get my license.

forgotoldnick
24-09-2012, 08:56 PM
met qua khong bit co lam viec noi khong.


After doing my own homework, is she saying she is tired because of working? :o
Before that i was just asking her to go eat her dinner before work.

Please don't blast me... i am still on P plate or worst... not even get my license.

yes, with front and back, easier to decode for u. dun say plp gl k. hahaha

met qua, very tired
khong biet co lam viec noi khong,
this "lam viec noi" here means work slacken....dunno whether will lazy to go to work arnot.

you reply her: " e dung lo cho cong viec nao, neu e met thi lam bieng 1ngay di, 1lat a cho e 2tram de di choi ......hjhjhhjh

yummyymym
24-09-2012, 09:49 PM
yes, with front and back, easier to decode for u. dun say plp gl k. hahaha

met qua, very tired
khong biet co lam viec noi khong,
this "lam viec noi" here means work slacken....dunno whether will lazy to go to work arnot.

you reply her: " e dung lo cho cong viec nao, neu e met thi lam bieng 1ngay di, 1lat a cho e 2tram de di choi ......hjhjhhjh

Lol that will be a lot of money to go Choi only Troi oi la Troi

forgotoldnick
24-09-2012, 10:14 PM
Lol that will be a lot of money to go Choi only Troi oi la Troi

so u understand your vay?

lam j vay
ai vay
lol

raidz70
24-09-2012, 10:23 PM
so u understand your vay?

lam j vay
ai vay
lol

vay? borrow? money? :confused:

vietboy
25-09-2012, 12:18 AM
Troi oi la Troi

Dun anyhow call Ong Troi. Its not good.

BTW, did u managed to find the meaning of luc?

jackbl
25-09-2012, 09:26 AM
Sex in border areas: P4 unimaginable exploitation
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In this part, Tuoi Tre continues with Thao, whose virginity was sold for a mere US$950.

On the first day at work, madam Xao ordered Thao to come to a hotel to serve Hac Nhi, a notorious underworld thug in Linh Coong. Thao refused and was badly beaten.

In the end, she had to meet the underworld boss at a hotel. In her words, Hac Nhi is a huge guy who made love to her while drunk and under the influence of drugs.

Her virginity was lost, being sold when she was just 16 years old for a mere 6,000 yuans (US$950). Of course, Thao earned nothing from the sale.

The second time, she had to serve another thug who even treated her more roughly.

But her ordeal was not over. Upon arriving at the brothel, A Mai, madam Xao’s husband, raped her before threatening to cut her throats if she ever told anyone about this.

Love dolls

Chu Thi Phuong let us see some scars on her body that she says are the results of torture by her boss. She recalled that she was force-fed to get plump to attract men as she was quite thin. In the mornings, Phuong and her ‘colleagues’ would take turns applying makeup to one another.

Phuong would get up at 6am and be escorted by a pimp to a barber’s shop on a small street in Linh Coong at 7am. Here, lining up a small street are a dozen shops, all offering sexual services. They are all owned by either Chinese or Vietnamese people.

Madam Ho’s has no hair cutting tools apart from four 1m-wide beds in four small rooms covered up by thin boards.

Around four girls line up before each shop and wave to men whenever they pass by. When they check in, madam Ho negotiates the price directly with them and many times, the girls do not know how much they are worth.

The customers would pay the money directly to the boss, and if the women receive any tips, they would be collected back.

Each session lasts around 30 minutes and some girls even have to endure 30 or even 40 sessions per day. When Phuong bled following her forced abortion days earlier, her customers scolded her and complained to the boss. Angry, Madam Ho beat her and forced her to continue serving other clients.

She was only allowed several days’ rest after catching a high fever, Phuong told Tuoi Tre.

The rule is that a girl is deemed to have paid all debts, i.e be free after working for 15-18 months. But sometimes, they are sold before the time is up, and thus have to work for a different boss from the beginning.

Who are the pimps?

Born in 1984, madam Van is a notorious brothel owner hailing from Bac Ninh province in Vietnam. Around 10 years ago, she was a victim, being sold to China via Lang Son province. After drifting back and forth on many brothels across the border, Van dated and married the brother of her buyer in Zhanjiang city, Guangdong province.

Then, from being an unwilling prostitute, Van became a willing human buyer and seller after setting up her own ‘shop’ near her brother-in-law’s.

Her husband in question is not nice and treats her like a prostitute. Once he heaved her up and thrashed her to the ground while Van - his wife - was still pregnant.

Van would source the girls from a 27-year-old handsome guy named Van Giap. Giap was mentioned before in this series, being responsible for seducing and tricking many gullible girls into slavery abroad.

One of Van’s victims is Tran Thi Mo who was bought at the age of 18 for 40,000 yuans ($6,300). Mo recalled a night in May last year when she and 10 others were stuffed into a small apartment on the third floor in Guangdong, to be paraded in front of Chinese and Vietnamese pimps who selected, negotiated and bought them.

This apartment was sometimes used to house hundreds of trafficked girls.
When Mo set foot in madam Van’s brothel, Van was pregnant and had a 4-year-old daughter but she was very cruel. The first time Mo refused to take clients, Van beat her, causing her nose to spill blood.

She even threatened to kill Mo if she continued to resist. As Mo knows, there are some girls who mysteriously vanished and were never seen again.

Van has an evil cousin who also operates a brothel in Zhanjiang. The two are notorious for beating their women black and blue and forcing them to tell clients that they accidentally fell down the stairs to dispel suspicions.

To be continued............

yummyymym
25-09-2012, 11:35 AM
Dun anyhow call Ong Troi. Its not good.

BTW, did u managed to find the meaning of luc?

Yuppies. Time or when Thanks man

yummyymym
25-09-2012, 11:36 AM
so u understand your vay?

lam j vay
ai vay
lol

Ya just learnt to remove it out the whole sentence ba Haha Thanks

jackbl
25-09-2012, 05:22 PM
"Street Knight" identifies robbery
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VietNamNet Bridge - "Knights of the street" are the way people call men who voluntarily hunt robbers on the street. Some of them are members of social or government organizations but some of them do not belong to any organization, but all of them voluntarily do this dangerous task for the peace of society. VietNamNet talks with "knight" Nguyen Van Minh Tien about robbery in HCM City.


What do you think about robbery in Ho Chi Minh City, especially in the city center and the victims who are foreign tourists?

Robbers in central Ho Chi Minh City who aiming at foreign tourists, are professional criminals.

When they hunt for victims, they are usually disguised, dressed with chic, expensive ride, so the most professional robbery hunters like the criminal forces, "street knights" are very difficult to recognize robbers.

The reason that they target foreign tourists is because they have a lot of money, jewelry, and cameras of high value.

As far as I know, recently in the city center, the criminal forces, volunteers, militias and local police patrol the street 24/7. However, bandits often take action when the police are absent, such as during the lunchtime or at midnight.

How do you identify robbers and what is your advice for people to deal with robbery crime?

Identifying robbery offenses is 50 percent based on my intuition and the remaining 50 percent are awareness of facial expressions, the psychological manifestations of the subject.

In addition to direct prevention of robbery, we also diffuse to people, taxi drivers, traders some personal experience about how to prevent robbery crime.

Everyday, I get about 10 phone calls from people to report of robbery. I can help only one or two cases because of my limited ability.

In my opinion, anyone who goes on the street with valuable assets needs to be at high alert. You should pay attention to people who often follow you, stare at you. They may sit on a motorbike or stand in front of or behind a few feet away and follow you. They can be robbers.

What are difficulties and limitations of "Knights of the street?"

Currently we do not have funding for this task. We spend all money we earn in hunting robbers and support the police.

Each day going out to "hunt" robbery, we usually go in a group of 6 people, in 3 vehicles. The cost for one day is around VND500,000 ($25) for petrol, food and drink. The expenses are not small for one month.

If we have funding, we can work from 8am to 1- 2am of the next day. Previously, my group had about 200 people, now it is less than 20 people. I'm sad and very anxious because I cannot help many people. Sometimes I wondered is it worthy to be called by people as a "Street Knight?”

What do you think when people say that you work harder than the police force and you are very popular with people?

It is not true that the police do not work positively, but they have to do a lot of work. People like "knight streets" to only hunt robbers and then give them to the police for further investigation.

We are glad that the police force is always supporting "street knights." The two sides have strong links and support. Whenever the police call me, I will be present immediately. When I hunt robbers, if I face bold robbers, I will call the police for help.

What do you think when the operation of “street knights” is beyond the government regulations? There have been cases that street knights have gone to jail after robbers died.

The "Street Knights" Club in Binh Duong province was established by the local government. Our team in Ho Chi Minh City was set up spontaneously but the Ministry of Public Security approved the establishment of the street knights club.

All people have the right to participate in the suppression of crime. When doing our task, we often catch the subjects in the act of robbery. Nobody can ban us from doing things under the policy of the Government and the State.

People occasionally catch a robbery case but we hunt robbers frequently and even are professional robbery hunters. We established the street knights group to urge the people to participate in this movement in order to repel crime.

Street knights do not cause the death of robbers. Robbers were hunted by people and street knights so they ran away at high speed and caused self-motorbike accidents. We do not shove them.

Only in cases that we catch robbers and beat them to dead we shall be subject to imprisonment.

In order to prevent robbery in Ho Chi Minh City, what anti-robber model should the government build?

It is difficult to say about models to crack down on robbery offenses because the government has the task force squad and the ward, district and city level criminal crime prevention teams.

Personally, I also proposed the Ho Chi Minh City police director to establish a "street knight club” which operates in all 24 districts to support the criminal prevention force to legally hunt robbers. If it is approved, we can work 24/7.

jackbl
26-09-2012, 01:00 AM
International Relations
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For most of their wedding, Do Thi Thanh Thuy and Andrea Da Gasso followed Vietnamese tradition, lighting incense, wearing ao dai, and marching gifts over from the groom’s house.

But as for the ritual of clinking glasses at every table, Andrea didn’t want to drink that much alcohol. So his aunt brought from their native Milan what he called 'a kind of keo' — confetti, or chocolate-covered almonds that brides and grooms deliver, table by table, at Italian weddings.

Such cultural compromises began long before the nuptials and, as with so many mixed-nationality couples in Vietnam, they continue long after.

“She’s open to learn about my culture,” Andrea, 42, says of his wife, “and that’s important to me.”

Couples like Andrea and Thuy represent roughly 2 percent of marriages in Vietnam each year, according to the Ministry of Justice. Of 668,026 marriage certificates issued in 2010, for instance, 13,882 went to foreign-Vietnamese couples.

When people travel to Vietnam and fall in love with locals, the couples embark on not just long-term relationships but long-term questions about how to marry their own habits and traditions with those of their partners.

Dating the family

More than anything, Confucian obsession with filial piety can complicate romances, from day one. Gia dinh la tren het, as the Vietnamese say. Family first.

Thuy, 30, met Andrea in 2008 when he visited the art gallery she was managing, to see about displaying his photography. He teased her about pronouncing 'next week' like 'Nesquick' and asked her out. After some qualms about dating a client, she finally agreed.

But like the majority of single Vietnamese, Thuy was living with her parents, so early on, dates ended with the pair sitting outside her house. From a balcony, her mother could watch over them or shout down to them about how late it was and shouldn’t he be going?

Doru Tudose, from Bucharest, met similar suspicion when he started dating Nguyen Han in 2006.

“In the first days, when I was picking her up, her mother was looking mean, no eye contact,” Doru, 34, says.

The two have since married and opened Bootleg Cafe together. But Han, 32, explained that at the time her parents were wary of foreigners, whose time in Vietnam could be fleeting, and they didn’t think it was proper for her to go out with Doru.

But the couple didn’t have as hard a time as Sonia Watson, 29, and Nguyen Hung, 28. Raised in Paris but identifying as British like her mother, Sonia is a rare white woman to marry a Vietnamese man. Hung says the gender reversal was a problem right away, in part because his parents expected him to marry a Vietnamese who would move in with them. On the other hand, a Vietnamese woman wed to a foreigner could make a smoother transition, because custom already requires that she move out of her parents’ house. Tuoi Tre newspaper quoted government statistics in July estimating that four in five Vietnamese who marry foreigners are women.

“It’s easier for a foreign husband and Vietnamese wife, because in Asian countries the man is usually more important. So if a daughter marries a foreigner, parents think she’ll have a better life,” says Hung, who works in customer care at Lakeview Villas.

Sonia, a behavioural therapist, becomes emotional when she recalls how Hung’s parents initially ignored her. His father walked out when she brought mooncakes the first time they met; his mother continued cooking rather than respond when she announced she was pregnant.

“We had big, big fights,” Sonia says. “They wanted me out of his life and did everything they could to get me out.”

That was years ago. But a newer couple, Doan Thi Ngoc Hien and Arnaud Darras, are now facing similar resistance from the Vietnamese side.

The couple have a lot to prove to Hien’s family. Arnaud, a manager of a heating ventilation and air conditioning company, is from Bordeaux but met Hien online in January, and they got married here in August. While talking with AsiaLIFE at a restaurant downtown, Hien feeds Arnaud ice cream and describes how her family urges her to marry rich, especially because they are well-off already.

Arnaud, 40, says Hien’s brother wanted to set her up with one of his wealthy friends.

“Later, when he sees we’re happy, we have a child, we’re still married, they will think, ‘He’s a good guy, we can accept him,’” Arnaud says, lacing his fingers around Hien’s. “But for now, I know it’s not the case.”

Hien, 28 and a sales manager at a shipping company, is adamant her family will have to come around.

But in the beginning, some choose not to deal with their families. That is, they lie. It’s common enough for women to date by telling parents they’re going out with friends. Thuy took it a step further, spending a weekend with Andrea on Phu Quoc island. What did her parents think she was doing? Surveying a client hotel for her art gallery.

“They don’t agree with me to go overnight with a man, but I follow my heart,” she says, sitting cross-legged on the floor at home with that man, whom she affectionately calls Heo, Pig.

On the island, they booked separate rooms, hers with a balcony from which she could listen to his guitar serenade. They grilled seafood on the beach and had their first kiss.
Hung made up a different story to stay with Sonia for a week. He came down with chickenpox after they met and told his parents he would go to a friend’s so the family wouldn’t catch it.

Tilting at stereotypes

Thuy says she trusts Andrea, with whom she shares a photography business out of their house in Binh Thanh District. But during the courtship, she kept an ear to friends who warned that when it comes to Vietnamese, westerners love them and leave them. And sometimes, leave them pregnant. When Thuy and Andrea finally visited Milan together, she went in part to check he didn’t have another wife and children in Italy.

The stereotypes cut both ways, says Doan Thi Ngoc, an instructor at Hoa Sen University’s Gender and Society Research Centre. Vietnamese women who walk down the street with western men can be seen as prostituting themselves or marrying for money and a passport, she says.

But Ngoc has found that people opened their minds as Vietnam opened its doors economically and socially. More tourism, wealth, business links, exposure to pop culture, and intermarriage, have meant that “attitudes can be more open,” she says.

Integration

In the case of intermarriage, Vietnamese families tend to open up to foreigners not just because they stick around, but because they adapt.

The process begins with le phep, deference to parents, from learning to address them respectfully, to having them over or visiting at least once a week. Andrea remembers one meal when he began eating before Thuy’s parents — a faux pas in Vietnamese culture, which dictates that younger generations invite older ones to eat first.

But few changes have a larger impact on the dynamics of relationships than a foreigner’s decision to take up Vietnamese.

“I want to learn everything,” says Arnaud, adding that Hien will teach him Vietnamese.

“You cannot understand the way of life of a country without learning the language.”

That’s still a work-in-progress for Adam Schofield, from Manchester, and Le Thi Ngo Nhien. Since his studying has dropped off, Adam is more likely to use his language CD during a DJ gig than a Vietnamese lesson. Red tape has stalled their marital plans, but the two have a 1-year-old son, and Adam says he’ll probably try learning Vietnamese again when his son does.

Sonia studied Vietnamese for a few years and says she’s grateful to participate during festivities, such as wishing her in-laws good health and longevity. But she and Hung generally lapse into English, which Ngoc, the university instructor, says reflects a 40-60 balance between Vietnamese and westerners.

“Just in my own opinion, still one side is dominant,” Ngoc says. “Vietnamese usually have to follow other cultures, but they enjoy that culture, too.”

The language barrier intrudes most obviously when husbands and wives can't communicate with their in-laws, or even pronounce each other's names correctly.

English is but one symptom of how far western influence has spread, but that makes it a more widely useful language than Vietnamese.

Partly for that reason and to keep a vacation-like barrier between him and the country, Doru, the Romanian, chooses never to adopt Vietnamese. Though Han wants him to learn, Doru is blunt in his refusal. Just as he never acquired a taste for local cuisine, Doru thinks no one has to change his ways for others. Yet he admits, “When we chose that she would learn English, subliminally, we were choosing to live on my terms.”


To be continue.........

jackbl
26-09-2012, 01:01 AM
Continued from above.........

Gender divide

Han makes the compromise, reasoning that living on western terms is to her benefit.

Wearing a white lace dress and heavy bangs, she says during an interview at her bar-cafe that the arrangement puts her on a more equal footing with Doru.

“Vietnamese men want us to be traditional, clean the house, cook, take care of the kids,” she says in Vietnamese. On the other hand, if she washes clothes, Doru dries them. If she cooks, he washes dishes. Not that she likes to cook.

She writes off Vietnamese men as selfish and jealous, but Vietnamese women own up to their spars with the green-eyed monster, too. Chalk it up to a society that leaves little room for friendships with the other sex, particularly after marriage.

Adam, 33, and Nhien, 27, have trouble finding middle ground here. They’re butterflies in a social scene ripe for jealousy because they like to DJ at clubs. Across from the altar in their parlour at home is a corner turntable. She sees less nightlife now their son Lucajay is in the picture, while Adam continues to work, which he says requires him to be, in a word, friendly. Still, Adam tries to curb the flirting, and Nhien tries to overlook his habit of calling people ‘darling’ and ‘love’.

“Women always want to be number one,” she says. “If he just hugs anybody, I feel like I’m the same as them, I’m nothing special.”

Sonia doesn’t worry so much about jealousy or infidelity. Friends had warned her of those problems among Vietnamese men, who they said drank, expected to be waited on, and hit their wives. Those formed an image that Sonia says turned her white girlfriends off from Asians. It doesn’t help that Asian males defy a somewhat western construct that they must be bigger and taller than females (Sonia notes that she’s taller than Hung). If dating sites are any indication, Asian men are some of the least successful pursuers, according to a 2009 study published in Social Science Research.

Asian women ranked among the most sought-after.

But Sonia has been attracted to Asian men most her life, while she considers herself nothing like traditional Asian women.

“I complain a lot,” she says, before turning to her husband in the living room of their District 7 apartment. “Your life would be easier with a Vietnamese wife.”

He considers. “You make me think about it.”

“Admit it, you know it’s true,” she says. “You’d live with your parents, you’d come home and everything would be done.”

Hung turns back to the interview, joking, “She wants me to get a Vietnamese wife.”

Bringing up baby

As couples go about welding their two worlds, no issue complicates the process more than the question of children. Hien and Arnaud want to conceive this month, while Andrea and Doru each need some convincing from their wives.

Those with children must then decide on a bevy of compromises. Will they keep the newborn inside the house until the first-month celebration? What will they feed the baby? For education, will they enroll in a Vietnamese school, pay five figures for an international program, or move to the foreign spouse’s home country?

Despite the challenges, parents say having children has smoothed the welding process. At first, Nhien earned her mother and father’s disapproval by drinking and going out late with Adam.

“But they’re happier now that I settled down and have a stable family,” she says.
For Hung and Sonia, 2-year-old Tam has made all the difference. When she became pregnant, they got not a single 'congratulations' from Hung’s parents, who harbored something verging on contempt for her.

Over the months, some of the animosity subsided and his mother even began to smile.

“The bigger I got, the more they realised, this is really happening,” Sonia says, before her son interrupts to ask for an explanation. He is holding a book, pointing to a picture of milk.

The day he was born, Tam’s paternal grandparents transformed completely. They spent the day at the hospital, tending to Sonia and cradling their hours-old grandson. It was as if they had always gotten along, and they never looked back.

While selecting a name, Sonia and Hung considered Tam, which means 'heart' when topped with a hat-shaped accent marker. But her mother observed that in Scotland, where she grew up, the name also means 'Tom'. So they opted to forgo the marker, leaving their son with a Vietnamese heart, and a western one, too.

yummyymym
27-09-2012, 06:22 AM
Can anyone help me on this

Da thuc toi gio roi

Dun quite understand though I know it is stating a time

Was (thuc toi) time already

jackbl
27-09-2012, 09:21 AM
Da thuc toi gio roi

Dun quite understand though I know it is stating a time

Was (thuc toi) time already

You asked her something, she replied to your question, so it is related to the Q u asked..... What u asked her???????? Think from this direction...

V|ernar
27-09-2012, 09:45 AM
Are u talking about yourself? They dunno but I know your history. Hehe

he come here blow balloon ~!

V|ernar
27-09-2012, 09:46 AM
Can anyone help me on this

Da thuc toi gio roi

Dun quite understand though I know it is stating a time

Was (thuc toi) time already

wow , this girl got good manner ~!

Honey Boon
27-09-2012, 04:32 PM
where have you been these days? :p

he come here blow balloon ~!

vietboy
27-09-2012, 04:43 PM
You asked her something, she replied to your question, so it is related to the Q u asked..... What u asked her???????? Think from this direction...

no context, can be anything...

jackbl
28-09-2012, 08:33 AM
The Vietnamese “hot teachers”
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VietNamNet Bridge – Students nowadays idolize the teachers who are young, beautiful, talented and have their special characters which make them outstanding from others.

It seems that the “taste” of students has changed a lot. In the past, respectfulness was the only sentiment students thought they needed to have to teachers. Students always needed to observe etiquette and lower their heads before the teachers.

Nowadays, students can be closer to teachers, communicate with them and talk about the topics of mutual interest as the friends of the same ranks and ages. Students nowadays not only respect teachers, but admire them and love them as well.

In the past, the most famous teachers were the respectful old teachers, who devoted themselves to the education. Nowadays, the most famous teachers are the young and beautiful, talented and modern ones.

Phan Hong Anh, a mathematics teacher of the Hanoi-Amsterdam High School for the Gifted, the most famous school in Hanoi which gathers the best students of the city, has become well know to every student as a hot girl and “hot teacher.”

The young teacher, born in 1991, has caught the special attention from students since the first day at the school as a teacher, for many reasons. First, she is a beauty, who was the runner-up at the Imiss Thang Long 2010 beauty contest. Second, she was an excellent student of the Hanoi-Amsterdam High School for the Gifted, majoring in mathematics and famous for good learning records.

Especially, Anh was an excellent student of the Hanoi University of Education, graduating from the training course specifically designed for talented students.

Anh has very good communication skills, which explains why students love her. The images about the young, beautiful, communicative and talented teacher have been updated on the school’s website regularly and on many other websites.

The students of the Phan Dinh Phung High School now have a common idol: history teacher Le Thi My Dung.

Dung is now so famous that every student knows her and would be ready to answer the questions about her. Dung is beloved by thousands of students because she always gives straight answers, because she is friendly and has high sense of humor.

Especially, a Dung’s fan club has been organized by the students of the Phan Dinh Phung school. The club gathers the students who love the teachers’ characteristics and regularly meet each other to discuss about the lovely teacher.

Van Trang, the administrator of the fanpage, said she created the website to show her sentiment to the teacher, adding that the fanpage has got 2100 likes since the opening.

While all other Vietnamese students complain that they get tired of the history lessons, the students of the Phan Dinh Phung High School find history lessons the most interesting hours at school.

They said with history lessons, they do not have to learn the events by hearts in a mechanical way, while they can remember all events and information easily, because Dung always gives interesting examples and show the links between the events and the happenings.

The most important “teaching know-how” of Dung is the sense of humor and the good understanding about students.

Newspapers in recent days repeatedly have reported the stories about the hot girls and hot boys, who have obtained big achievements at the beauty contests or talent competitions.

Meanwhile, the hot boys and hot girls have been well known to students for a long time already, because the hot boys and hot girls are also the teachers.

Before Vo Trong Phuc became famous as a singer attending the Vietnam’s Got Talent reality TV show, Phuc had been well known to students as a handsome English teacher of the international English school Elite.

Compiled by C. V

SING_IN_HCMC
28-09-2012, 03:10 PM
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VietNamNet Bridge – Students nowadays idolize the teachers who are young, beautiful, talented and have their special characters which make them outstanding from others.

XXX

Phan Hong Anh, a mathematics teacher of the Hanoi-Amsterdam High School for the Gifted, the most famous school in Hanoi which gathers the best students of the city, has become well know to every student as a hot girl and “hot teacher.”

The young teacher, born in 1991, has caught the special attention from students since the first day at the school as a teacher, for many reasons. First, she is a beauty, who was the runner-up at the Imiss Thang Long 2010 beauty contest. Second, she was an excellent student of the Hanoi-Amsterdam High School for the Gifted, majoring in mathematics and famous for good learning records.

Especially, Anh was an excellent student of the Hanoi University of Education, graduating from the training course specifically designed for talented students.

Anh has very good communication skills, which explains why students love her. The images about the young, beautiful, communicative and talented teacher have been updated on the school’s website regularly and on many other websites.



Compiled by C. V[/QUOTE]


Anh JB, Phan Hong Anh is this one in the middle in white ao dai:
http://http://www.freeimagehosting.net/t/mxhm2.jpg (http://www.freeimagehosting.net/mxhm2)

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/24/554828991346813535honga.jpg/

jackbl
29-09-2012, 01:20 AM
The story behind super-slim houses
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Slim houses, which are often less than 1 or 2m in frontal width, come into being after their original full-sized versions are partially demolished to make way for road expansion projects. Their remains are then renovated, and in some cases when space was lacking, expanded upwards.

The capital, Hanoi, and southern hub of Ho Chi Minh City are the cities packed with the most super-thin houses. According to Phap Luat newspaper, the number of super-slim houses in Hanoi has reached more than 664, and that number is estimatedexpected to be even higher in HCMC.

Featured in Sai Gon Giai Phong newspaper, the laundry shop T & T on Huynh Van Banh street, Binh Thanh district, which covers less than 1m in frontal width, is always packed with customers. The weirdly small size of the shop and the sense of danger does not stop its customers from coming.

In the same area similarly super-slim, weirdly shaped houses can be easily spotted.

Some are long and flat with one end curved like a ship, while others are shaped like a tiny triangle.

Such flat houses can also be found on the cleared zones of the Tan Son Nhat – Binh Loi – Vanh Dai Ngoai road construction project.

According to Sai Gon Giai Phong newspaper, Tan Son Nhat – Binh Loi street is planned to become one of the city’s artery streets. Therefore, a plot of land on the street front, however small it is, is worth a fortune.

Such houses are not a rare sight in other areas of the city.

Lining the streets along the section of the Tan Hoa – Lo Gom canal which crosses District 6 are a multitude of super-slim houses which have sprouted up at a pace faster than that of the canal renovation project.

Among them is an ‘awe-inspiring’ house that is only around 1m wide and looks just like an upright, two-storey concrete cylinder.

“I’m even too scared to seek shelter from rain in this house, let alone live in it. It can collapse anytime in strong gusts of winds,” Sai Gon Tiep Thi quoted Ngo Thien Tri, a local retired civil servant, as saying.

H.H, who owns a super-thin house in an alley of Hau Giang street, says that as the Tan Hoa – Lo Gom canal upgrade project got underway, most of her siblings’ houses were cleared entirely, while H. was fortunate enough to have around 13m2 of her house left.

“We first planned to sell this leftover plot to the project but the compensation rate - VND 18.5 million ($US 898) per m2 - was not enough to buy a house from the relocation program, so we had no choice but to keep this house for accommodation,” H. explained.

She added that the relocated area was too far from the city center, and would have made it really difficult for her children to go to school and for her and her husband to make a living, she added.

One of her siblings had his plot entirely cleared for construction and received a compensation sum totaling VND450 million ($US 21,846).

He took his family to neighboring Long An province and bought a quite large plot and built a house for more than VND 500 million ($US 24,273).

H. said her super-slim house can be easily leased for no less than VND 5 million ($US 243) per month, but her family chooses to live there for convenience.

She said with her four family members crammed into the tiny space, she had no choice but to take the risk.


Causes and solutions

The emergence of super – slim houses can be attributed to several causes.

As regulated by laws, houses can be cleared to the road marker only. Therefore, the remaining plot, however small it is, still belongs to the house owner.

“HCMC officials have never allowed such houses to be built. Laws on site clearance and compensation stipulate that residents cannot build houses on plots whose sizes are smaller than regulated. They are encouraged to sell these leftover plots to the government or their neighbors, Sai Gon Giai Phong quotes Tran Minh Tho, head of Binh Thanh District’s Site Clearance and Compensation Board as saying.

Meanwhile, as Phap Luat newspaper reported, dozens of flat houses in Binh Tan district’s Binh Hung Hoa B ward were indeed granted permission to be built.

If the local residents voluntarily give up their houses to the government for road expansion projects without receiving compensation, they will be granted permits to build on their leftover plots, explained Vo Thanh Son, chair of the Binh Hung Hoa B Ward’s People’s Committee.

Son also added that allowing these house owners to build flat houses on their remaining plots is reasonable in reconciling both the government’s and locals’ interests. Otherwise, locals will not hand over their lands voluntarily, affecting road expansion project progress.

According to Vu Thanh Hai, vice chief construction inspector of Go Vap district, the Tan Son Nhat – Binh Loi – Vanh Dai Ngoai road expansion project affects approximately 1,200 houses in the district, Phap Luat reported.

Sai Gon Tiep Thi quoted architect Nguyen Tien Thanh, dean of the Architecture Faculty of Binh Duong province’s Thu Dau Mot University, as saying that in order to both ensure architectural harmony and the interests of home owners, “there must be detailed masterplans in the first place, featuring specific regulations on construction density, number of stories, areas, etc.”

After site clearance, the houses that fail to meet construction standards need to be radically dealt with first, before the construction of the roads along the canal is completed, he added.

“These shortcomings may be due to insufficient investment capital, or the ‘ignorance’ of the project implementers and censors,” Thanh concluded.

According to architect Le Quang Ninh, the remains of the houses which measure less than 30m2 should be considered on a case-by-case basis regarding their location, among other factors, Sai Gon Tiep Thi reported.

“If they don’t violate any regulations, their owners should be granted permission to have them rebuilt. This should be treated with flexibility,” Ninh elaborated.

“In my opinion, after clearance, the remains of the houses measuring less than 30m2 should be confiscated by the government to expand public space,” Ninh added.

jackbl
29-09-2012, 02:13 PM
HCM City: Public sale of fake number plates
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VietNamNet Bridge - Fake number plates have been sold publicly along many roads in HCM City for years but the authorities have not paid attention to it.


With only VND70,000-VND90,000 dong ($3-4), anyone can have a fake number plate. To get a nice number plate, with embossed and reflected emblem, one has to pay only VND350,000 ($17) (five digit plate) or VND400,000 - 600,000 ($20-30) (four-digit plate).

Hong Bang Street, the section from Ong Buong Bridge to Phu Lam rotation, is the most famous "fake number plate market" in Ho Chi Minh City. The road is more than 1 km long, but there are nearly 10 fake number plate making enterprises.

On the afternoon of July 31, correspondents dropped in a fake license plate making enterprise in Ward 14, District 6, which was ran by a young man of about 25 years old. The man said that the price is VND70,000 ($3.5) for a normal number plate and VND350,000 ($17) for a nice place number.

Asking him about the number plate with the national emblem, he said: "To have the national emblem, the price will be higher, VND400,000 ($20) for a four-digit plate and VND350,000 for a 5-digit plate. Fake plates just like the real ones, but be careful."

Correspondents visited another fake number plate shop which is right in front of the headquarters of the Quarter 2 administration, Ward 12, District 6. A woman said the price is VND130,000 ($6) for all kind of plates. She asked customers to deposit VND100,000 and told them to come back tomorrow to receive the plate.

The next days, correspondents returned to this place to take the fake number plate, which looked similar to an authentic plate.

On August 2, correspondents visited another fake number plate selling point on Vo Van Ngan road, Thu Duc District. A man offered: "Normal plate is priced VND70,000, being delivered tomorrow. If you want a plate with the national emblem, the price is VND600,000 ($30), available in one week. "

Law violations

Talking with fake number plate sellers, correspondents found out that the majority of fake license plate buyers are illegal racers, those who use illegally imported or stolen vehicles or the people who use vehicles for illegal acts.

Lawyer Do Hai Binh (Ho Chi Minh City Bar Association) said that producing fake number plates may be charged of production, storage, transport, trafficking of prohibited goods, under Article 155, the Penal Code. Violators face administrative penalty or a prison term of three to 15 years.

However, this article is only applied to those who produce or sell fake number plates marked with the emblem. Those who use fake number plates can be fined or their vehicles may be seized, Binh said.

NLD

jackbl
30-09-2012, 03:22 PM
Tết Trung Thu Vui Vẻ. Am Áp Tinh Thần.

jackbl
02-10-2012, 09:04 AM
40 – Probably, perhaps – hình như, có lẽ, chắc
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There are 3 words you can use to describe a possibility (probably, perhaps, maybe, it seems): hình như, có lẽ, chắc. You can put them at the beginning of a sentence or before the verb

Hình như / có lẽ / chắc + sentence (+ thì phải)

Subject + hình như / có lẽ / chắc + verb + object (+ thì phải)

hình như ngày mai trời mưa?
probably tomorrow sky rains?
it seems to be raining tomorrow?


Ừ nếu trời mưa thì có lẽ chúng mình phải hủy cuộc hẹn ngày mai
uh, if sky rain then maybe we have to cancel the meeting tomorrow
uh, if it rains then maybe we have to cancel the meeting tomorrow


Đừng lo, chắc trời không mưa đâu!
Don’t worry, probably sky not rain
Don’t worry! It may not rain.


You can add thì phải at the end of the sentence without affecting the meaning.

Anh Long hình như là người Sài Gòn phải không?
(he) Long probably to be person Sài Gòn isn’t it?
Long is probably (a person) from Sài Gòn, isn’t he?

Không, anh ấy hình như là người Long An thì phải
No he probably to be person Long An
No, he seems to be from Long An


You can also add là after hình như, có lẽ, chắc without changing the meaning. In this case, là is just a filler word (it doesn’t mean “to be”).

Chắc là chị ấy lỡ tàu nên giờ này vẫn chưa về đến nhà
Probably she miss the train so hour this still not return at home
She probably missed the train so she still hasn’t gotten home at this hour.

jackbl
03-10-2012, 09:40 AM
Struggling to live in European paradise
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We arrive at a big restaurant in central London. The owner is British-Vietnamese, a person who wishes to remain unnamed, and confesses that he has spent roughly 30 years there developing the business.

He employs 20 people, most of whom are from Asia. Half of the restaurant staff is Vietnamese.

They have immigrated to England in many ways, both legal and illegal. But they have the same purpose: to seek an opportunity to transform their lives.

Besides the restaurant’s owner, it is not difficult for us to meet Vietnamese people who have become wealthy through their honest work. Couple Trần Văn Sử and Lê Thị Mỹ Lệ are among this group.

Su said he came to the country without a cent in his pocket in 1980. He and his wife now operate four restaurants serving Vietnamese food in London. Their restaurants are always crowded with customers.

Su said that most Vietnamese here work hard, but some wish to make a great fortune in a short period of time, so they decide to participate in illegal jobs.

Deadly job

Cultivating hashish trees is one of the popular illegal jobs that bring huge profits that several Vietnamese have chosen to pursue. They do it in spite of the fact that they are breaking the law, and ignore the danger involved.

They call the crop the ‘money tree’ because it can bring in huge amounts of cash.

A young man who goes by the name Tinh confessed that poverty drove him to planting hashish trees. He earns GBP300,000 to GBP500,000 (US$470,625 – 784,375) after harvesting 100 square meters of hashish. It takes around three to six months to cultivate the trees.

Although they earn a lot of money, these growers are often abused and exploited by local residents.

Local people don’t plant the trees directly, instead they hire illegally immigrated Vietnamese to do the job for them. When local authorities discover what is going on, the immigrants have to take all responsibility.

“If we are discovered, we are sent back to Vietnam immediately,” Tinh said.

Thing are simple when they have to face the police. However, Tính uncovered his back and showed countless scars on it.

He said this is the result of several clashes with local gangs who tried to rob his products after the crops were harvested.

When it comes time to harvest, people who have information on the schedule wait for the process to be completed and then steal the products.

The robbers include both gangs and local residents who hire the Vietnamese immigrants to take care of the farm because they don’t want to pay wages as negotiated.

“In order to put the money into our pocket, we must pay a very expensive price. It’s our lives,” said Tinh, who has been jailed for five years for doing the job.

Fortunately, he was not sent back to Vietnam because he came to England under a family reunion form. However, he has yet to obtain British citizenship, though he has decided to stop working with hashish.

Few people are brave enough to quit like Tinh though, because profits from the trees are large.

A Hai Phong native called Long said that he was arrested twice for planting hashish trees and was sent back to Vietnam, but he tried to return illegally.

Long explained that he had to pursue the illicity work because he faces a big debt back home.

“I tried perform one successful ‘mission’ to get the money needed to pay off all of my debt. I should not have borrowed money for planting hashish trees here. Now I have no way to leave the job,” he said while trying to turn away to hide his tears.

Illegal immigration

Nam, of Nghe An Province, came to England illegally by way of the Czech Republic and France.

“My family lives under the poverty line in Vietnam. I have to feed four children but the crops there always failed. I decided to borrow VND150 million (US$7,200) to go to the Czech Republic to work.”

“After four years of working in the country, friends told me to immigrate to England by travelling to France. Thinking of my wife and children in Vietnam, I decided to undertake the risky trip. I had to pay the smuggling ring 2,500 euros (US$3,072), and they agreed to bring me to England,” Nam recalled.

Last autumn, Nam went to France. He was asked to throw away all of his personal papers so that British police could not trace his origin. If the police could not find out where he was from, they would hold him a few hours and then release him.

His first mission failed. He was discovered by police dogs as he was hiding in the van that would bring him from France to England.

He endured three similar failures before he finally had the opportunity to step onto England soil on his fourth trip.

“I will never forget this trip for the rest of my life. Lying in a van, I hid in a plastic bag so that scanners at the border checkpoint wouldn’t discover me. Fortunately, police dogs were also unable to find me in the van,” Nam recalled.

We followed Nam to his “house” in London, which is nothing more than a ten-square-meter room.

He showed us a picture of his wife and children on his bed, saying “I look at the picture before going to bed every night. The picture is my only motive for me to overcome difficulty here. I can suffer everything as long as my wife and children live a happy life,” Nam said.

He works from eight to ten hours a day, and every month, Nam sends home GBP1,500 (US$2,353). “This is a lot of money, and it helps my wife and children live happily. Even in a dream, I cannot see that amount of money in Vietnam.”

In the restaurant where he works, there are two other Vietnamese workers. They also came to London illegally.

Life without a future

Of course, not everyone has good luck like Nam. Several people have successfully passed the border check point, only to be arrested when they traveled further into England.

They are not likely to be sent back to Vietnam, and they can go out and work, but they are unable to obtain any personal papers, even if they have lived in the country for ten years.

Every few weeks they have to visit a police station to report that they are working a legal job in the country.

jackbl
03-10-2012, 01:44 PM
New type of call girls in Saigon
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VietNamNet Bridge - PR (Public Relations) is the polite way to call prostitutes who are not controlled by pimps. These girls “independently operate” at pubs and restaurants. Their heyday is not over the age of 25.

Playboys who have status in society usually chose normal restaurants and pubs and ask managers of these places to call "PR girls" for them. Therefore, many managers of restaurants and pubs in HCM City have close ties with many "PR" girls.

In a room in a restaurant located on Cao Thang Road (District 3), some guests had barely sat down in the chair, when the manager asked: "Do you need ‘PR’?"

A few minutes later, four girls dressed in scanty clothes stepped into the room and made pairs with guest themselves. They poured beer into glasses, picked up food to customers as they loved each other in the previous life. After the party ended, PR girls got VND1 million ($50) from customers and they did not forget to give VND100,000 ($5) to the manager as "kickback."

Besides mobile "PR" girls, some popular pubs in HCM City have on-the-spot PR girls who are young and beautiful. However, these girls are not allowed to sit with their customers. So many playboys call this service "standing beer." The main task of these girls is embracing, pouring beer, chatting and pulling white hairs for customers.

Particularly in a restaurant on Dien Bien Phu Road, some PR girls can sing cai luong very well so their "tips" are high. At this restaurant, if customers give tip of VND200,000 ($10), PR girls will leave and mutter "Cloddish!."

Most of the PR girls are young and beautiful and they come from the southwest. When they just arrive in Saigon, they usually work as waitresses at restaurants and then join the group of "PR" girls. After a time working as PR girls, they have scooters, iPhone, nice clothing, and money. Every morning, in beautiful clothes, they sit in coffee shops or go shopping to wait for customer’s calls.

Previously, playboys often chose rural girls or rural students who are good-looking to be their "mistress." But now it is outdated. Womanizers do not want to entangle annoying affairs but “eating and paying” form.

Being aware of that fact, "PR" girls do not dream of being covered by rich men, but try to earn as much tip as they can in each party or each time they go out with whore-monsters. They often associate as groups to support one another.

A policeman said when they meet rich men, they will introduce each other to earn money from him. Certainly, other girls will have to pay commission to the one who introduce the customer to them. These teams are popular everywhere from pubs to upscale restaurants. According to many restaurant owners, without PR girls, their restaurants will be "dead" soon.

Thuy, 21, from Dong Thap province, a "PR" girl at restaurants and pubs in Thu Duc district, customers pay tip of at least VND200,000 ($10). PR girls can earn least VND10 million ($500)/ month, not including earning from prostitution. With such high income, but only a few days having no customers, many girls do not have money for breakfast.

In fact, to get money to buy scooters, expensive cell phones and nice clothes, most "PR" girls in Thu Duc district have to borrow from usurers. If they borrow VND 30 million ($1,500), they have to pay interest money of VND 200,000 ($10) per day. In addition to paying interest money, PR girls have to send VND3-5 million to their families, pay motel rent, purchase clothes and cosmetics, gambling and patronizing their boyfriends.

Though they are prostitutes, most of "PR" girls have boyfriends, who are drug addicts, gamblers or gangsters. These men are their support in the world full of violence, deception, cunning.

"Many girls have boyfriends who are drug addicts are brutally beaten if they do not give money to their boyfriends but they have to stand it. They cannot break up with these men," a PR girl said.

For PR girls, 25 years old is too old. From earning nearly VND20 million a month, they suddenly become empty-handed while the debt is still there. Therefore, the road for almost PR girls is becoming real prostitutes and then pimps. Consequently, some go to jail, some are destroyed by the ravages of drugs, and some are infected with HIV.

ANTG

KangTuo
03-10-2012, 04:10 PM
Recieved a sms from JBS... (wtf is that)...

Learn Vietnamese with JBS International College 970 Geylang road; Tristar Complex
Intake: October 13th, weekend class
2:30pm - 5:30pm ** every Saturday
Details please call --> 64780456


I like the location... after theory straight go practical :D

Honey Boon
03-10-2012, 04:51 PM
Recieved a sms from JBS... (wtf is that)...

Learn Vietnamese with JBS International College 970 Geylang road; Tristar Complex
Intake: October 13th, weekend class
2:30pm - 5:30pm ** every Saturday
Details please call --> 64780456


I like the location... after theory straight go practical :D

course fees?

qualification of the teachers?

Please advise .... :D

KangTuo
03-10-2012, 05:47 PM
course fees?

qualification of the teachers?

Please advise .... :D

i dont know... just some spam sms...
call to ask lor

i only know jc course fee and teachers qualification

SekLo
03-10-2012, 08:47 PM
Got jc, then what about gl course fee and teacher qualification?

oldmcdonald
03-10-2012, 11:03 PM
hey guys..i know senior bros have advised to fk and forget this chick...but it's so dang difficult!
We've kept texting but it's gone down from 5-6 a day to 1-2 a day.

Can you please help me with this?
A few days ago she wrote:
"Toi du doan la nguoi trong phong lay, nhung toi ko biet ai, bao canh sat se nhieu rat roi den chu nha. ve may bay toi chua mua. Toi rat buon, vi o vietnam me toi dang trong toi ve, de co tien phu giup me, nhung toi da ko thuc hien duoc. toi ko dam bao cho me toi biet. toi ko muon me toi kho so".

I didn't really understand so I just said I didn't understand and asked her when she'd go back to Vietnam for sure.

A day after that, she wrote:
"Toi dang ve vietnam. ba ngoai toi mat roi, nen toi phai ve gap. sim dien thoai vietnam, toi da lam mat. khi nao ve vietnam, toi se mua sim khac, roi sms qua cho ban biet, se giu lien lac voi ban. neu doc sms ko hieu, ban co the nho dong nghiep thong dich dum".
What does this mean exactly? Google tells me she lost her vietnamese SIM and would sms me after she buys a new one.

I replied to that but she didn't reply. She usually replies instantly or a few hours later (prob working) but left it for two days and still no reply. I gave her a call today and her singaporean number has been disconnected!

What could this mean? Caught by the police? Could she be in some sort of trouble? I've checked her prepaid balance and there's still credit (surprised it even showed me even though it's not in service), so I do have my concerns about her.

SekLo
03-10-2012, 11:42 PM
Do you understand her SMS? Especially the first line?

forgotoldnick
04-10-2012, 12:22 AM
A few days ago she wrote:
"Toi du doan la nguoi trong phong lay, nhung toi ko biet ai, bao canh sat se nhieu rat roi den chu nha. ve may bay toi chua mua. Toi rat buon, vi o vietnam me toi dang trong toi ve, de co tien phu giup me, nhung toi da ko thuc hien duoc. toi ko dam bao cho me toi biet. toi ko muon me toi kho so".

I didn't really understand so I just said I didn't understand and asked her when she'd go back to Vietnam for sure.

A day after that, she wrote:
"Toi dang ve vietnam. ba ngoai toi mat roi, nen toi phai ve gap. sim dien thoai vietnam, toi da lam mat. khi nao ve vietnam, toi se mua sim khac, roi sms qua cho ban biet, se giu lien lac voi ban. neu doc sms ko hieu, ban co the nho dong nghiep thong dich dum".
.

I like her story, the way she writes also quite nice and entertaining.

jackbl
04-10-2012, 12:37 AM
Details please call --> 64780456

course fees? qualification of the teachers?

Please advise ....

Dun be lazy! Call them to ask

oldmcdonald
04-10-2012, 04:51 AM
Do you understand her SMS? Especially the first line?
Not really, she stopped using viet characters in her messages to save money so a lot of it has been guesswork.

This is what I understand:
"Toi du doan la nguoi trong phong lay, nhung toi ko biet ai, bao canh sat se nhieu rat roi den chu nha. ve may bay toi chua mua. Toi rat buon, vi o vietnam me toi dang trong toi ve, de co tien phu giup me, nhung toi da ko thuc hien duoc. toi ko dam bao cho me toi biet. toi ko muon me toi kho so".
I don't know anyone, the police hosts many raids (?!?!) I have not bought airline tickets. I'm very sad because I promised to help my mother which I have not done so I'm not sure what I will do when I return.

"Toi dang ve vietnam. ba ngoai toi mat roi, nen toi phai ve gap. sim dien thoai vietnam, toi da lam mat. khi nao ve vietnam, toi se mua sim khac, roi sms qua cho ban biet, se giu lien lac voi ban. neu doc sms ko hieu, ban co the nho dong nghiep thong dich dum".
I (dang?!?!) ve (ticket) vietnam (she bought tickets to vietnam??). My grandmother is in risk. (She died??) I lost my Vietnamese Sim card. In vietnam, I will buy another sim, to sms you and will keep in touch with you. If you don't understand this SMS, you can ask a friend to translate.

Not sure how different my understanding is to what she really said, so hope you bros can help

I like her story, the way she writes also quite nice and entertaining.
If only I knew what you know :D

jackbl
04-10-2012, 10:05 AM
Foreign investors, Vietnamese millionaires rush to farm salanganes
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VietNamNet Bridge – Salangane nests, considered the nutritious food for the rich, have been enriching their owners. This has prompted others to rush to farm salanganes to become rich.


Salanganes attract everybody

In Tam Thon Hiep commune of Can Gio district in HCM City, there are a lot of houses of salanganes, which local residents call “Ba’s house” or “Chin’s house.” In fact, these are not the real names of the owners of the houses. These are just the names used by local residents, who cannot remember the foreign names of the foreign owners.

The residents in the salanganes’ village surprisingly do not have deep knowledge about salangane farming.

“A house for salanganes costs one billion dong or more. How can we arrange so much money to invest in salangane farming?” Dang Thanh Tinh, a resident in An Hoa Hamlet of Tam Thon Hiep commune explained.

One of the most well-known salangane farms here is the one of a Malaysian person. In the commune alone, the man possesses four houses for salanganes which has begun providing products, earning one billion dong a month, and another one which is still under the construction.

In Can Gio district alone, 35,000 square meters of land have been reserved for breeding salanganes. A house for salanganes (5x20m, three floors) would cost over one billion dong, which is paid for the land, construction and technique.

This sum of money is really out of reach of the local people who have medium or low income. This explains why most of the owners of the salangane farms are foreigners or the big Vietnamese investors from HCM City.

“Ten years ago, when the Malaysian person built the first house for salanganes in the Tam Thon Hiep commune, people were very curious about the function of the house,” Tam Gam, one of the few local salangane farmers, recalled.

“Some years later, when he collected many kilos of salangane nests, did people realize what the man intended to do. Then some people have followed him to breed salanganes,” she said.

The gift from the God

The stories about the farmers who earn billions of dong a year from salangane nests have prompted investors to flock to Can Gio to build houses to “invite” salanganes to live here.

However, not everyone can reap fruits from their investments. Local residents say salangane nests are the “gifts from the God” which are not delivered equally to everyone.

Thanh, a local resident, said he built a house for salangane four years ago, but he still cannot take back the investment capital. Thanh said he spent money on “modern technologies and machines,” installing air conditioners, dew spraying machine, speakerphone system, odor generating machine to lure birds. However, the number of birds making their nests in Thanh’s house remains lower than he expects.

“At first, I received the technical assistance from a Malaysian engineer, who reassured me that I would harvest five kilos of nests a month after eight months of investment. The investment cost was 350 dollars per square meter,” Thanh said.

However, the number of birds making nests in the house was much lower than expected. Therefore, Thanh has decided to restart again with new techniques.

Tam Gam said that every household has its “know how” in farming salanganes. However, she said that the God will decide who will succeed with the farming. A lot of investors apply modern technologies and make heavy investments, but they cannot entice the birds.

Lao Dong

SekLo
04-10-2012, 10:46 AM
I no understand majority of the SMS too. But "toi dang ve Vietnam" I though is mean "I on the way go back Vietnam"? If I am right, then it make sense that her phone line can't get through.

Honey Boon
04-10-2012, 11:11 AM
better call your personal no.... to learn better TV :D:p

Dun be lazy! Call them to ask

forgotoldnick
04-10-2012, 03:48 PM
Not really, she stopped using viet characters in her messages to save money so a lot of it has been guesswork.

This is what I understand:
"Toi du doan la nguoi trong phong lay,

If only I knew what you know :D

Give u some hint,

Theo toi du doan la em ay thich tien nhieu hon thich a mcdonald.

I predict she likes money more than she likes u.

oldmcdonald
04-10-2012, 04:14 PM
Give u some hint,

Theo toi du doan la em ay thich tien nhieu hon thich a mcdonald.

I predict she likes money more than she likes u.

In her defense, I didn't tell her it was becoming difficult to understand her so I doubt she realises an online translator would struggle with the English alphabetical equivalent of the Viet character.
Can anyone help with the translation please?

jackbl
05-10-2012, 10:11 AM
Sex in border areas: Last part - Kidnap and escape
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Nguyen Thi Thao from Hoa Binh Province, who was sold to a brothel in Guangdong province in October 2011 when she was just 16, is among those who have fallen victim to brazen kidnappings and re-kidnappings by different factions.

One evening, a hotel employee from Linh Coong town called her manager – madam Xao – to supply one girl for the hotel. Thao was chosen and was taken there by two pimps, strapped in the middle on a motorbike.

Thao arrived at the hotel at 7pm and was taken to the third floor where many large, tattooed men were waiting. To her surprise, instead of having to serve them as usual, she was kidnapped.

First, one told her to sit down while another locked the door, after which the group tied and gagged her. With tears in her eyes, she was dragged out under the surveillance of the thugs, many of whom were wielding weapons.

She was then pushed into a car and transported to a deserted hill around 1 hour from Linh Coong, where she was left tied for the whole night while her captors negotiated with one brothel owner after another.

By early morning A Mai, the brutal husband of madam Xao who is her ‘rightful’ owner, led a group of around a dozen thugs to the hill to ‘rescue’ her.

Outnumbered, her kidnappers fled and Thao was ‘saved’, meaning she had to return to her old master and resume her sexual slavery.

Immediately after these events, Thao had to serve clients again without being given any rest. Instead of words of sympathy for her ordeal, all she got was, “this means you have to work more for me, to pay for the money I spent on hiring men to rescue you”.

Thao is not alone.

In madam Xao’s own house many girls have been kidnapped. Some were lucky enough to be rescued, while others have not been heard from again.

Than Thi Mo, who is infected with HIV, told Tuoi Tre, “they sell, kidnap, and re-kidnap girls as if they were vegetables. Some young, beautiful girls are kidnapped up to three times a month by different factions”.

At 3pm on September 3, 2011, Mo was inside a barber shop when five masked men entered and took her away. They threw her into a car before driving around to kidnap more women.

After their job was done, the kidnappers demanded ransoms for the girls. If they were in demand by clients, the brothel owners would pay the money to get them back. Meanwhile, those considered not worth the ransom would be sold to a different parlor.

Madam Van and her Chinese husband paid to get Mo back, as she was young and well-liked by many customers.

The kidnappers have even tricked the poor girls. Vu Thuy Ly, born in 1991 in Thanh Hoa province, met a man who spoke some Vietnamese and claimed to be able to rescue her and send her to Vietnam.

She trusted him and escaped from her brothel into his arms only to recognize that he was just another evil human trafficker who sold her to a new place.

Escape

An escape opportunity came to Nguyen Thi Thao when, at the end of last year, Chinese police started carrying out inspections of this red light district and called all suspected brothel owners in for questioning.

As a result, the pimps at A Mai’s house went into hiding to avoid police scrutiny and thus all of the prostitutes were left alone with only A Mai, the female manager.

Thao hatched a plan with another girl named Hong to tie the manager up. But Hong reneged, expressing doubt that they would be able to find the way back to Vietnam. But Thao reassured her that she had secretly hidden 200 yuan inside a pillow and could use the money to travel as far from the brothel as possible.

“Dying on the road is OK for me as long as it is not in this brothel”, Thao told Hong.

The two then stealthily snuck up on the manager, overpowered her and tied her up with the door curtain. They locked her inside a room, took her motorbike and fled.

Thao drove until 1am, and they had covered over 100km when a car sped up and bumped into them. The two escapees fell and were captured.

Thao was beaten hard by a pimp who said “stupid girl stupid girl. I told you never to run. Now how do you want to die?”

Hong too was savagely beaten. They used an iron bar to hit her face and back. They were escorted to the brothel where they were beaten again before being sold to another brothel.

Another attempted escapee is Nghiem Thi Thu of Vinh Phuc province. She and another girl managed to flee to a construction site where a guard agreed to let them in. But upon seeing the two in skimpy costumes, he made sexual advances, forcing the women to run away to a hotel.

The guard at this hotel agreed to hide the girls on the terrace. But again, when they were on the top floor, he started to abuse them.

Screaming, they ran downstairs and were grabbed by the guard, who called the police. The two were taken to the station and spent one day there before being sent back to Vietnam. Thu’s journey had ended.

oldmcdonald
05-10-2012, 08:57 PM
hey guys..i know senior bros have advised to fk and forget this chick...but it's so dang difficult!
We've kept texting but it's gone down from 5-6 a day to 1-2 a day.

Can you please help me with this?
A few days ago she wrote:
"Toi du doan la nguoi trong phong lay, nhung toi ko biet ai, bao canh sat se nhieu rat roi den chu nha. ve may bay toi chua mua. Toi rat buon, vi o vietnam me toi dang trong toi ve, de co tien phu giup me, nhung toi da ko thuc hien duoc. toi ko dam bao cho me toi biet. toi ko muon me toi kho so".

I didn't really understand so I just said I didn't understand and asked her when she'd go back to Vietnam for sure.

A day after that, she wrote:
"Toi dang ve vietnam. ba ngoai toi mat roi, nen toi phai ve gap. sim dien thoai vietnam, toi da lam mat. khi nao ve vietnam, toi se mua sim khac, roi sms qua cho ban biet, se giu lien lac voi ban. neu doc sms ko hieu, ban co the nho dong nghiep thong dich dum".
What does this mean exactly? Google tells me she lost her vietnamese SIM and would sms me after she buys a new one.

I replied to that but she didn't reply. She usually replies instantly or a few hours later (prob working) but left it for two days and still no reply. I gave her a call today and her singaporean number has been disconnected!

What could this mean? Caught by the police? Could she be in some sort of trouble? I've checked her prepaid balance and there's still credit (surprised it even showed me even though it's not in service), so I do have my concerns about her.

bump. any takers?
cheers

jackbl
06-10-2012, 12:49 PM
Inbound remittances on a rise
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Though the main remittances attraction channels, including real estate and securities, have not prospered yet this year, inbound remittances have still increased.

In Ho Chi Minh City alone, inward remittances in the first nine months of this year reached $2.8 billion, equal to nearly 81.5 percent of all of 2011.

According to data from the State Committee for Overseas Vietnamese Affairs, in the first half of the year, inward remittances sent to Vietnam reached more than $6.3 billion, equaling 70 percent compared to 2011.

Earlier, according to figures from the first six months of 2012, the inbound remittance volume sent to the southern economic hub reached $1.9 billion.

Representative of Sacomrex Remittance Co, a subsidiary of Saigon Thuong Tin Commercial Joint Stock Bank (Sacombank), said that as of the end of August, the volume of inbound remittances sent to Vietnam via their company had reached $1.2 billion, rising 20 percent year-on-year, though this period was not the peak time of remittances.

The company’s major remittance markets are still the US and Australia and foreign markets with a high rate of Vietnamese laborers with relatively attractive salaries, such as Japan and South Korea.

Trinh Hoai Nam, deputy director of EAB Remittances Co under Dong A Commercial Joint Stock Bank, said that the total remittance volume sent to Vietnam via the company in the first eight months of this year exceeded $1 billion.

On the other hand, the amount of inbound remittances are thinning, from a popular rate of $600-700 each previously to $300-500 recently, Nam said.

But the absolute number of inbound remittances sent via the firm is still a surprise, as many foreign economies are facing long-term difficulties.

According to remittance companies, money transferred to Vietnam recently mainly flowed into rural and remote areas, from which a huge volume of local workers have been sent to work abroad recently.

Previously, inward remittances were mainly channeled into family with relatives living abroad. Currently, many overseas Vietnamese are also sending money to build houses or invest locally.

Nam forecasted that the company’s inward remittances volume sent to Vietnam this year may reach $1.4-1.5 billion.

In addition, according to remittances companies, the increase of inbound remittances is also partially thanks to the high depositing interest rate of the dong, as many remittance recipients have converted foreign currencies, mostly US dollars, into dong to create savings and enjoy interest rate differences.

“In comparison with last year, the dong deposit interest rate decreased but the forex rate was stable. Therefore, the difference in interest rates was still attractive,” the director of a remittance company said.

Snap service is also a plus, as the time needed to transfer money from the US to Vietnam is now just a few seconds. Smooth connections have speeded up a process that needed many intermediaries in the past, said Pham Thuy Nga, head of the banking product and policy department under Vietcombank.

Many experts have forecast that the inward remittances sent to Vietnam this year may reach $10-11 billion, rising 30 percent year-on-year.

AdGuy
06-10-2012, 01:29 PM
bump. any takers?
cheers

I'm not sure if you will get a response.

It's just like pasting a full essay here for bros to translate. There's a professional translation fee chargeable for jobs like this ;)

SekLo
06-10-2012, 04:13 PM
Right.. Guess bros here will be more willing yo translate if a fee is offered.

AdGuy
06-10-2012, 05:56 PM
Right.. Guess bros here will be more willing yo translate if a fee is offered.

I dont think anyone here is capable of providing a professional translation.

My point here is that one should not treat this thread as a free translation service.

jackbl
08-10-2012, 09:14 AM
Rural girls marry foreign men for filial duty
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VietNamNet Bridge - At the age 23, Phuc married a Chinese man as the way to show gratitude to her parents. The Can Tho girl was unexpected to fall into painful days in a foreign land.

It is a “fashion” for girls in the Mekong Delta to fulfill their filial duty by marrying foreign men to have money to send back home to their parents.

However, the irony of fate is pushing many girls into the hell of prostitution or violence of their abusive husbands.

To rescue these women, their families need to have hundreds of millions dong (tens of thousands of USD) to ransom. Where's the money in this poor countryside?

A victim of this “fashion” is Ms. Nguyen Thi Ngoc Dung, 57, in Thoi Binh Ward, Ninh Kieu District, Can Tho City. Dung married her grand-daughter Nguyen Thi Diem Phuc, 23, to a Chinese man.


A typical victim

When she was 3 years old, Phuc’s parents divorced. The heartless mother sent her little daughter to her mother to marry another man.

In the narrow house, Dung sits lonely, thinking about the bitter childhood of her grandchild, who had been living in the extreme, the absence of parental love until she got married.

Despite having two children, the mother went away from Phuc and her sister. Every morning, Phuc woke up and helped her grandmother to pick vegetables, wash dishes, etc. Phuc and her sister grew up in the arms of their grandparents.

She finished school at the age of 13, to begin earning her living.

"She got up early every morning to join me to clean, blow the fire, cook, pick vegetables, and do all sorts of things. She grew up and I wanted to find a good man for her so she could have a happy life. Who would have thought ... she married a Chinese man and fell into hell," Dung lamented.

One day, Dung and her grandchild went to a Buddhist temple, where they saw a matchmaker who told them about perspective when marrying a foreign man. The matchmaker said that if Phuc gets married with a foreign man, she will be happy, wealthy, and her life will change.

"Getting married for one year, you will have money to build a new house for your grandmother," the matchmaker told Phuc.

Phuc agreed to marry a Chinese man to have money to fulfill her filial duty. The marriage took place very quickly.

The matchmaker introduced Dung and Phuc to Ms. Tu, in Cao Lanh town, Dong Thap province, whose two daughters got married with foreign men and recently sent money to their mother to build a new house.

Also in Dong Thap, Dung and Phuc met a famous matchmaker, named Ms. Xai Mai, over 60.

Mai took four Chinese men to see Phuc and one of them agreed to marry Phuc and to go to Saigon to organize the wedding.

In August 2011, Phuc was married to Dong Ji Wo, 32, from Liaoning, China. Before the wedding, Dong Ji Wo bowed and promised to Ms. Dung to "support Phuc for the whole life.” He also said that he has a car and factory at his hometown.

A big wedding took place in a hotel in HCM City. Two days later, Phuc left Vietnam to China with her husband. However, her dream collapsed. Soon after, Dong Ji Wo revealed himself as an abusive and cruel husband.

Late tears

Phuc called home to tell her grandmother in tears: "I was cheated by Dong Ji Wo. He stripped all jewelry and money from me. I am beaten very often and locked in a room."

Dung stood dumbfounded when she heard bad news. Then she decided to go to Ho Chi Minh City to meet Xai Mai to reclaim her grandchild.

This woman promised to take Phuc back to Can Tho but she did not realize her pledge.

For many months, Ms. Dung went to many state agencies in Can Tho and HCM City to call for help, but she got very negative signals.

Phuc was brutally harassed by her husband's family. The woman attempted to make an escape many time but she failed because she is alone in there and she cannot speak Chinese.

Phuc’s mother, Tran Thi Diem Thuy, held the wedding photo of her daughter, said: "I now regret that I left her at the age of three. I was assured when she lived with my mother. Now she is being abused, I implore competent agencies to rescue my daughter."

It is the late regret of a mother. However, is it too late for those who are looking to change their life by marrying foreign men?

Quoc Huy
To be continued…

vietnam80
08-10-2012, 10:13 AM
haiz....they have in their mind that marrying to foreigners will give them a better life, but in reality, how many of them are really happy? :(

jackbl
09-10-2012, 02:19 AM
Bride runs away at midnight because of 'sexual violence'
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VietNamNet Bridge - The family was happy to tear when their daughter had a foreign husband. However, on her first night, the bride was harassed by her Chinese husband.

Fleeing in Can Tho

Living in the Mekong Delta, Ms. To Thi Thuan’s family, residing in Thoi Phong village, Co Do district, Can Tho City, does not have an inch of land. The family had to live on the land of a commune office.

This poor family has up to six daughters. While the family was stuck, matchmakers appeared and the family nodded consent for marrying their oldest daughter – named Hien – to a Chinese man.

As of now, the family still can not read the vernacular name of Hien’s Chinese husband. They only know that he is 16-year-old older than their daughter, born in Fujian (China), working in a company in Shanghai. This man’s Vietnamese name is Xuan Hai.

In early February 2012, Hien’s wedding was held after several days she knew her future husband. The wedding was held at home. The matchmaker gave the family a total of VND10 million ($500) and the groom gave his parent-in-law VND2 million ($100). In addition, the groom also presented his bride a gold necklace and gold earrings.

After the wedding, the new couple went to Can Tho city to spend their first night in a hotel. At the hotel room, Xuan Hai told his wife to take off jewelry to take a shower.

Until now, Hien could not forget her husband’s insanity and his sexual violence. “At that time, I just thought that I could be able to live with that violent husband," Hien said.

The woman rescued herself in the wedding night.

At around 10pm, she told her husband that she would like to go out to buy some personal items. This was the perfect opportunity for her to escape. She asked for refuge in a restaurant where was hired before.

The next day, the matchmaker informed Hien’s mother, Ms. Nhuan, that her daughter had fled. The family was dumbfounded. Nhuan got a stroke and the entire money (VND10 million) they had from “selling” their daughter was spent.

Nhuan sought help from state agencies to search her missing daughter. Finally, Hien, who got married for fulfilling her filial duty called her parents to tell them that she was still safe.

However, the matchmaker insisted to take back VND15 million ($750), the cost of the wedding.

The day Hien called home, the mother was so happy. But being afraid that her daughter was seized by the matchmaker, she asked the local Women's Union for protecting her child.



Unsuccessful escapes in foreign land

Not only Hien but many other Mekong Delta girls marry foreigners to show gratitude to their parents.

Bride Nguyen Thi Diem Phuc, 23, Can Tho City, who was mentioned in the previous story, is living in the days of pain, humiliation with her husband - Dong Ji Wo - in China.

Phuc’s phone calls made her family to feel like they lose off pieces of intestine. Phuc is being harassed each day in foreign land.

Phuc's grandmother said that she just dealt the phone number of her family and then hung up to wait for her family to call back. Her husband confiscated her personal papers and did not allow her to call home.

The family of Phuc’s husband is located on a hill and they even do not have a toilet. The food is not a good match. “As they cannot understand each other, my grandchild is beaten very often,” the grandmother said.

Nearly two months ago, also at midnight, Phuc escaped from her husband’s home. She walked alone for more than three hours and was arrested by Chinese police in the morning and put in jail because she did not her personal documents.

Being detained by police and because of the language barrier, Phuc could not save herself.

Phuc’s grandmother recalled that her niece cried on the phone and said: "At that time I was afraid to be jailed. I did not know anyone to call, so I had to call my husband."

Phuc’s husband took her home and continued beating his wife.

The husband and his family locked Phuc in the piggery and lighted fire around to make her faint. Then, his parents poured water on their daughter-in-law to bring Phuc to her sense.

They were still angry because the Vietnamese bride ran away; both Dong Ji Wo and his parents beat Phuc again with sticks. Each time she called home, Phuc told her family to save her.

Among brides who are asking for help in foreign countries, because of domestic violence, there is one woman who saved herself after more than one month in the foreign land.

Quoc Huy
To be continued…

V|ernar
09-10-2012, 11:55 AM
Not really, she stopped using viet characters in her messages to save money so a lot of it has been guesswork.

This is what I understand:
"Toi du doan la nguoi trong phong lay, nhung toi ko biet ai, bao canh sat se nhieu rat roi den chu nha. ve may bay toi chua mua. Toi rat buon, vi o vietnam me toi dang trong toi ve, de co tien phu giup me, nhung toi da ko thuc hien duoc. toi ko dam bao cho me toi biet. toi ko muon me toi kho so".
I don't know anyone, the police hosts many raids (?!?!) I have not bought airline tickets. I'm very sad because I promised to help my mother which I have not done so I'm not sure what I will do when I return.

"Toi dang ve vietnam. ba ngoai toi mat roi, nen toi phai ve gap. sim dien thoai vietnam, toi da lam mat. khi nao ve vietnam, toi se mua sim khac, roi sms qua cho ban biet, se giu lien lac voi ban. neu doc sms ko hieu, ban co the nho dong nghiep thong dich dum".
I (dang?!?!) ve (ticket) vietnam (she bought tickets to vietnam??). My grandmother is in risk. (She died??) I lost my Vietnamese Sim card. In vietnam, I will buy another sim, to sms you and will keep in touch with you. If you don't understand this SMS, you can ask a friend to translate.

Not sure how different my understanding is to what she really said, so hope you bros can help


If only I knew what you know :D

toi dang ve vietnam = i am going back vietnam .. the rest is almost correct .

nothing amazing , the usual story .

jackbl
10-10-2012, 01:42 AM
Tricks to turn Mekong Delta girls into overseas prostitutes
================================================== ===================

VietNamNet Bridge - By different tricks, swindlers lure many girls in southwestern provinces to go abroad to get married in the form of travel. Many girls have been sold to pimps.

Then, while the girls are abroad, at home, the investigating agencies have received many petitions to call for help from their relatives.

Married to become... prostitutes

Marrying foreigners has become very popular for girls in the Mekong Delta. Most of them consider this as the way to have an easy life.

In his petition, Mr. PVT, in Binh Thuy district, Can Tho City, wrote: "In early 2012, through a broker, my daughter named Pham Thuy Hang was married to a Chinese man - named Chen Wei Dong. She married that foreign man for her filial duty."

The wedding was held at the Vinh Ky restaurant in Can Tho City. Thuy Hang’s husband is at the same age with her father.

In the first meeting with his parent-in-law, the Chinese man promised to dedicatedly, thoughtful take care of his wife and to be an intimate husband.

The bride’s family trusted in the Chinese man’s promises. They did not know that he was a swindler.

When "the couple" just passed through the border, the "bridegroom" Chen Wei Dong immediately sold his “wife” to a pimp.

"Then, this pimp intended to sell my daughter to another man as his wife. But my family has lost contact with my daughter for a few months. We have tried many ways but still could not save my daughter," Mr. T. wrote.

In another case, Mr. Nguyen MT, in Ninh Kieu District, Can Tho city, accused a Vietnamese woman named Mai and her Chinese husband of cheating his sister, Ms. Nguyen T.A.D, 20. These people also used the same trick: introducing the woman to marry with a foreign man, then selling her to a pimp.

Where's the ransom?

After quick weddings, when they know that they are cheated in foreign land, Vietnamese brides have to pay huge ransoms to be repatriated.

Recently, the Can Tho Police Agency received denunciations of Mr. Nguyen Hien Sang. According to Sang, in April 2012, his girlfriend named Thach T, 29, 24, in Chau Thanh A District, Hau Giang province, was taken to China by a matchmaker and could not find a way back.

Sang said: "The matchmaker told me to pay VND80 million ($4,000) for T to return home. But we cannot afford to pay the ransom."

Back to the case of bride Pham Thuy Hang, someone asked Mr. T. on the phone to pay ransom of VND60 million ($3,000).

"When my family contacted with the pimp, they impudently asked my family to pay VND60 million to release my daughter. My family is in pain and does not know when we will meet our daughter again. Meanwhile, the criminals are still out there...," quoted from Mr. T’s petition.

Similarly, Mr Nguyen M.T, the elder brother of a bride named D went to China to rescue his sister. There, the pimp claimed up to VND170 million ($8,000) of ransom.

Statistics in Tan Hung Ward, Thot Not District, Can Tho City, only in recent months, at least seven girls registered to marry Chinese men.

The latest trick of brokers is taking Chinese men to the bride's home. Just the local authorities confirm that the girl is still single; the marriage procedures will be implemented immediately.

Giving only VND30 million ($1,500) to the bride’s family and brokers, the foreign groom can "own" a young bride.

Despite waiting tragedies and pitfalls, many girls in the Mekong Delta still desire to get married to foreign men.

Quoc Huy

ilovedoggie
10-10-2012, 01:51 AM
toi dang ve vietnam = i am going back vietnam .. the rest is almost correct .

nothing amazing , the usual story .

when can u compile a book of "usual story" to us? i wan to buy and get your signature pls. :D

LOL! seriously i also bumped into this "ba ngoai mat roi" story twice in merely 4-5 months time?

so far with my limited exposure i remember bumped into these stories:
1. "e co benh SIDA"(in earlier my post)
2. "ban sua iphone cho e iphone" (wow your "friend" so good???)
3. "ban trai e moi thang cho e 3nghin do!" (and drive a convertible super car with her finger pointing to a ferrari weaving by BUT hv to work at LX3)
4. "mat dien thoai" (super common and happened at unbelievable high frequency, faster than u change underwear"
5. "em trai dung xe" (and anh trai, anh hai all also bang moto in consecutive weeks etc)
6. "e lam cac toc cho con gai thoi" (really? no comment...)
7. "ban trai e la nguoi CANADA ???" (and super rich and buy me many houses WOW!!!)
8. "e lam o cong ty TAIWAN?!" (which explains why i can speak good chinese and taiwanese!)
9. "e co di dai hoc" (her dai hoc is actually a small classroom lectured by a tom dick harry in vn who think he can speak accurate english, much better than sillyporean, and perhaps chinese)
9. "toi hom qua e xin roi nen tat dt" (i have a good reflex system that automatically turn off my phone when im drunk without me thinking)
10. "ban trai cu cua e la ong chu cua PHAM KAM HONG!" (Really? do u know my ex-gf is Britney Spears?!)

can add on to the list if u like:D

vietboy
10-10-2012, 08:18 AM
when can u compile a book of "usual story" to us? i wan to buy and get your signature pls. :D

LOL! seriously i also bumped into this "ba ngoai mat roi" story twice in merely 4-5 months time?

so far with my limited exposure i remember bumped into these stories:
1. "e co benh SIDA"(in earlier my post)
2. "ban sua iphone cho e iphone" (wow your "friend" so good???)
3. "ban trai e moi thang cho e 3nghin do!" (and drive a convertible super car with her finger pointing to a ferrari weaving by BUT hv to work at LX3)
4. "mat dien thoai" (super common and happened at unbelievable high frequency, faster than u change underwear"
5. "em trai dung xe" (and anh trai, anh hai all also bang moto in consecutive weeks etc)
6. "e lam cac toc cho con gai thoi" (really? no comment...)
7. "ban trai e la nguoi CANADA ???" (and super rich and buy me many houses WOW!!!)
8. "e lam o cong ty TAIWAN?!" (which explains why i can speak good chinese and taiwanese!)
9. "e co di dai hoc" (her dai hoc is actually a small classroom lectured by a tom dick harry in vn who think he can speak accurate english, much better than sillyporean, and perhaps chinese)
9. "toi hom qua e xin roi nen tat dt" (i have a good reflex system that automatically turn off my phone when im drunk without me thinking)
10. "ban trai cu cua e la ong chu cua PHAM KAM HONG!" (Really? do u know my ex-gf is Britney Spears?!)

can add on to the list if u like:D

Wa, u also can write a book liao. Just get a few more n compile them together. :D:p

desa
10-10-2012, 08:34 AM
How do you know a viet gal is true to you, if she know many guys per day

vietnam80
10-10-2012, 10:09 AM
How do you know a viet gal is true to you, if she know many guys per day

1st, how does she know many guys in one day? Fl or Wl too, is thats the case, u have to engage services of some bros here to help u spy on the gal liao.

:)

AdGuy
10-10-2012, 10:35 AM
How do you know a viet gal is true to you, if she know many guys per day

You don't.

Ignorance is bliss

Honey Boon
10-10-2012, 03:48 PM
same applied to any girls ::D

How do you know a viet gal is true to you, if she know many guys per day

jackbl
10-10-2012, 11:41 PM
Obsessed 'hell' of southwestern girls
================================================== =======

VietNamNet Bridge – M. is a southwestern woman who lucky freed herself after marrying a foreign man. In her hometown, My Khanh Commune, Phong Dien District, Can Tho City, she can not forget terrible memories in China.

"It was a very tough life there. My husband kept all the money and locked me in the house. Life for one day in China is as long as a year in my hometown. Coming home I shouted, hugged my child and cried as I had just been back from the world of the dead," M recalled.

The village of Vietnamese girls in China

Like other girls in Can Tho, who got married to Chinese men, M’s marriage was matched by Ms. Xen Mai, a marriage broker in Ho Chi Minh City. The marriage without love was quickly organized after several days.

M did not marry yet but she had a child of over 1 year old. Still, she decided to find her new prop in foreign land.

All documents and procedures very fulfilled quickly after M agreed to marry that Chinese man. "I did not have to do anything. Ms. Xen Mai organized everything. It took only 2 days to fulfill all the procedures," M said.

Most matchmakers described the prospect of a luxury life if girls marry with Chinese men, who are plantation owners, managing director of big factories in big cities. All the procedures must be done quickly; otherwise the chance will go to other girls.

And so, southwestern girls agree to bet their life by the rotation of scammers.

Going to China, M was devastated at the prospect of her matchmaker had drawn. It's all a lie. According to M, there are 8 Vietnamese girls from the southwestern region in the village of her husband and the number is 23 along the 1km road.

According to M, not only women from the Mekong Delta but also women in the central and northern provinces of Vietnam were also cheated to marry Chinese men.

Each day they dreamed of returning to Vietnam soon. However, once they went there, the way home was full of obstacles, and M. called herself lucky.



Dream to marry foreign men collapses

The prospect does not like what the matchmakers described. The real life is a life of "darkness."

M said: "It was very strange! The house had no bathroom, no toilet, just heading up to the mountain. The entire village only had slums. I could not imagine that they could live like that."

Everyday, M’s husband went to the field. He locked M in the house. M’s life was at a deadlock while they could not talk to anyone because of the language difference.

Until now she is still haunted: "It was a very tough life there. My husband kept all the money and locked me in the house. Life for one day in China is as long as a year in my hometown. Coming home I shouted, hugged my child and cried as I had just been back from the world of the dead."

M said that most of Vietnamese women there had a very hard life and all of them wanted to go home soon.

"At first, my husband said he would allow me to return to Vietnam each 3 months but then he said if I’m pregnant, I can visit my family. Next he told me to deliver the child and then to wait when the child grows up… He just promised all the time but he did not allow me to visit home," M. recalled.


Bare hands

After 1 month 3 days in China, M returned to Vietnam. At that time she claimed to commit suicide at her husband’s home because she was unbearable of injustice, oppression of her husband’s family.

She recalled the moment lucky when she met a Vietnamese woman who was fluent in Chinese. She translated to her husband: "If you do not let me go, I will die with your family. You have to buy ticket for me in two days."

M is also very lucky because her younger sister lives in Beijing with her husband and she is fluent in Chinese. This woman called M’s husband to threaten him that: "If you do not let her go home, I will call the embassy to go to your house to solve the case."

Before M left, her husband took all of her luggage, even the sandals she were wearing. "I will leave everything for you," M told her husband. She went home with bare hands.

Finally, M. summarized: “The rich Chinese will never go to Vietnam to get married. Most people who come here to find wives are poor farmers, who have to borrow money for seeking a wife. The cost for marrying a Chinese girl China is higher than for a Vietnamese girl.”

Quoc Huy
To be continued...

desa
11-10-2012, 09:16 AM
You don't.

Ignorance is bliss

i think is better i stay ignorant, but see how things goes as i wanted to marry her, she not fl but working in ktv

V|ernar
11-10-2012, 09:42 AM
dont rush into marriage .

follow the golden rule before commitment .

AdGuy
11-10-2012, 10:38 AM
i think is better i stay ignorant, but see how things goes as i wanted to marry her, she not fl but working in ktv

9/10 KTV ARE FLs. Those other FLs are not 'free' coz technically, they all have "boss" aka fking pimps

It takes a lot for them to come here and stay here.

Let me help do a quick analysis:

Their expenditure per day is 20-30. Plus the "agent" fee of $1-1.5k if they are first time here. That's about $2-2.5K.

If your girl is hot, she can make 200 upwards per day. Otherwise, 100-150. Less off the days where there are cong an nh nh, maybe she works 20-25 days in a month which comes up to about 4k.

Do you think she came all the way here to make 1.5-2k?

Seriously, don't rush into marrying a KTV girl. As time goes by, more secrets are exposed. Trust us on this.

Hurricane88
11-10-2012, 11:14 AM
9/10 KTV ARE FLs. Those other FLs are not 'free' coz technically, they all have "boss" aka fking pimps

It takes a lot for them to come here and stay here.

Let me help do a quick analysis:

Their expenditure per day is 20-30. Plus the "agent" fee of $1-1.5k if they are first time here. That's about $2-2.5K.

If your girl is hot, she can make 200 upwards per day. Otherwise, 100-150. Less off the days where there are cong an nh nh, maybe she works 20-25 days in a month which comes up to about 4k.

Do you think she came all the way here to make 1.5-2k?

Seriously, don't rush into marrying a KTV girl. As time goes by, more secrets are exposed. Trust us on this.

agree with you...but when the guy is in luv...small head thinking...nothing goes in...you had been thru before...:)

vietnam80
11-10-2012, 12:36 PM
i think is better i stay ignorant, but see how things goes as i wanted to marry her, she not fl but working in ktv


bro, is it u who upped me? thanks for the upped. i have seen some working in ktv and get married happily also but only 1 or 2 out of 10 only. so long as she works in ktv, she thinks it is fast n easy $$ unless u r able to support her financially. But then again, if u r able to support her, does she gamble? becos i have seen some my friends able to support them with $$, but if they gamble n they feel u r unable to pay off their debts, then they go back work again. anyway, u see how it goes lor. from many bros experience here, u can read up n then u follow ur heart loh.

Honey Boon
11-10-2012, 01:29 PM
the Masters have spoken ..... :p

dont rush into marriage .

follow the golden rule before commitment .

9/10 KTV ARE FLs. Those other FLs are not 'free' coz technically, they all have "boss" aka fking pimps

It takes a lot for them to come here and stay here.

Let me help do a quick analysis:

..............ed. Trust us on this.

vlover
11-10-2012, 08:46 PM
when can u compile a book of "usual story" to us? i wan to buy and get your signature pls

LOL! seriously i also bumped into this "ba ngoai mat roi" story twice in merely 4-5 months time?

so far with my limited exposure i remember bumped into these stories:
1. "e co benh SIDA"(in earlier my post)
2. "ban sua iphone cho e iphone" (wow your "friend" so good???)
3. "ban trai e moi thang cho e 3nghin do!" (and drive a convertible super car with her finger pointing to a ferrari weaving by BUT hv to work at LX3)
4. "mat dien thoai" (super common and happened at unbelievable high frequency, faster than u change underwear"
5. "em trai dung xe" (and anh trai, anh hai all also bang moto in consecutive weeks etc)
6. "e lam cac toc cho con gai thoi" (really? no comment...)
7. "ban trai e la nguoi CANADA ???" (and super rich and buy me many houses WOW!!!)
8. "e lam o cong ty TAIWAN?!" (which explains why i can speak good chinese and taiwanese!)
9. "e co di dai hoc" (her dai hoc is actually a small classroom lectured by a tom dick harry in vn who think he can speak accurate english, much better than sillyporean, and perhaps chinese)
9. "toi hom qua e xin roi nen tat dt" (i have a good reflex system that automatically turn off my phone when im drunk without me thinking)
10. "ban trai cu cua e la ong chu cua PHAM KAM HONG!" (Really? do u know my ex-gf is Britney Spears?!)

can add on to the list if u like

wa.. didnt know your written vietnami so gooood!! only hear u sing before.. hahah

11. em trai/em gai/me e/cha e/ba noi e/ba co e:eek: bi te xe ne.. bay gio nam o benh vien.. ;)

Wa, u also can write a book liao. Just get a few more n compile them together.

You dun be so modest ley.. both of you equally proficient to write books liao.. see you in 'M' soon!!

Regards,
vlover

KangTuo
11-10-2012, 10:05 PM
see you in 'M'

today you good mood.. post anyhow...
you seen vietboy before?

forgotoldnick
11-10-2012, 10:18 PM
How do you know a viet gal is true to you, if she know many guys per day

Just like buying 4d, if u have it, its there, if not, try harder next time. Odds of finding a good gem amongst the wl that could be truly yours, is as good as striking first prize.

KangTuo
11-10-2012, 11:31 PM
dont rush into marriage .

follow the golden rule before commitment .

what golden rule? :confused::confused:

KangTuo
11-10-2012, 11:36 PM
Do you think she came all the way here to make 1.5-2k?

there is a vb who came here earn $300 (1st trip), $300 + iphone4s (2nd trip) and $700 (3rd trip) yet she happy :D

jackbl
12-10-2012, 01:38 AM
there is a vb who came here earn $300 (1st trip), $300 + iphone4s (2nd trip) and $700 (3rd trip) yet she happy :D

Is it becos here have her fav "banh canh"??? :confused:

ilovedoggie
12-10-2012, 01:54 AM
there is a vb who came here earn $300 (1st trip), $300 + iphone4s (2nd trip) and $700 (3rd trip) yet she happy :D

i heard got some came here earn "negative" end up with a whole buttock of debt... bcuz come here less than one week bi bat bi tra ve luon... :D

vietboy
12-10-2012, 08:24 AM
i heard got some came here earn "negative" end up with a whole buttock of debt... bcuz come here less than one week bi bat bi tra ve luon... :D

I have heard a vb come here work but when go back only got a few hundreds... Bcus earn liao go MBS, RWS give back singapore. A few days before going back, no choice sell brand new iphone4 which she bought only a few days before... :D

vietboy
12-10-2012, 08:47 AM
wa.. didnt know your written vietnami so gooood!! only hear u sing before.. hahah

11. em trai/em gai/me e/cha e/ba noi e/ba co e:eek: bi te xe ne.. bay gio nam o benh vien..



You dun be so modest ley.. both of you equally proficient to write books liao.. see you in 'M' soon!!

Regards,
vlover

Not modest leh. His TV improved by leaps n bounds. Last time he always asking jackbl this word n that. Look now his TV!

I add another one :D

12. Anh trai/em trai/chi/em gai cua em dam cuoi khong co du tien vay em muon tien cho anh trai/em trai/chi/em gai :rolleyes:

Looking forward to see u. :) But hor where is this place 'M' ha?

Honey Boon
12-10-2012, 02:25 PM
not all girld see money big as cow car wheel .... you lucky ma :D

there is a vb who came here earn $300 (1st trip), $300 + iphone4s (2nd trip) and $700 (3rd trip) yet she happy :D

ilovedoggie
12-10-2012, 10:28 PM
Not modest leh. His TV improved by leaps n bounds. Last time he always asking jackbl this word n that. Look now his TV!

I add another one :D

12. Anh trai/em trai/chi/em gai cua em dam cuoi khong co du tien vay em muon tien cho anh trai/em trai/chi/em gai :rolleyes:

Looking forward to see u. :) But hor where is this place 'M' ha?

aiyo u all har dont laugh at me ler... in front of u all i dont dare to make one viet sound bcuz u all too pro liao i paiseh...:o

desa
12-10-2012, 10:30 PM
the Masters have spoken ..... :p

i will keep that in mind, if she is too money minded , i will have second thoughts

ilovedoggie
12-10-2012, 10:40 PM
i will keep that in mind, if she is too money minded , i will have second thoughts

u shd be money minded instead. if she can help u do nha chu business and bring in lots of vb (for our enjoyment :D) and make u lots of money then u shd consider her. u can shake leg sing song karaoke everyday but dont get those vbs pao tor u to your future bx tht u r playing other vb at some ktv else your future bx might "raid" the place with a scissors in hand? hjhj :p

AdGuy
12-10-2012, 11:46 PM
I have heard a vb come here work but when go back only got a few hundreds... Bcus earn liao go MBS, RWS give back singapore. A few days before going back, no choice sell brand new iphone4 which she bought only a few days before... :D

I think you meant... which some carrot bought for her a few days before. :rolleyes:

AdGuy
12-10-2012, 11:48 PM
u shd be money minded instead. if she can help u do nha chu business and bring in lots of vb (for our enjoyment :D) and make u lots of money then u shd consider her. u can shake leg sing song karaoke everyday but dont get those vbs pao tor u to your future bx tht u r playing other vb at some ktv else your future bx might "raid" the place with a scissors in hand? hjhj :p

U mai hai lang hor. :mad:

Wait he really do then tio liak... see if u feel guilty or not? :(

ilovedoggie
13-10-2012, 01:38 AM
U mai hai lang hor.

Wait he really do then tio liak... see if u feel guilty or not?

actually i cant find any law that doing that business is infringing. the only thing is ura might issue you a warning or worst case scenario fine you for accommodating too many ppl in one house and also illegal usage of residential premise as hostel. maybe irs will chase u also bcuz u evade paying tax for doing that biz. anyone can enlighten?:D

ilovedoggie
13-10-2012, 01:41 AM
I think you meant... which some carrot bought for her a few days before.

recently one vb told me "neu e tra iphone cho ng ta a co mua cho e k. e thay a k thich e nen k dam noi e so"

she think it's my first night go ktv and think i dunno her plan is to sell the iphone and get me buy her a new one...knn

i must admit that is so fcking ultimate...:D

SekLo
13-10-2012, 02:21 AM
U mai hai lang hor. :mad:

Wait he really do then tio liak... see if u feel guilty or not? :(

Can't be illegal to rent out hdb room to these girls right? As long as keep to the max. head count allowed and these girls have valid visa, then shouldn't be a problem as far as renting to them is concerned. My neighbour used to rent to 4 Vietnamese girls but now no more already.

vietboy
13-10-2012, 09:16 AM
aiyo u all har dont laugh at me ler... in front of u all i dont dare to make one viet sound bcuz u all too pro liao i paiseh...:o

Chun bo, u sang viet songs in front of me before leh. :p:D

vietboy
13-10-2012, 09:18 AM
I think you meant... which some carrot bought for her a few days before. :rolleyes:

She really bought it herself but the one u mentioned also heard b4. :)

vietboy
13-10-2012, 09:21 AM
recently one vb told me "neu e tra iphone cho ng ta a co mua cho e k. e thay a k thich e nen k dam noi e so"

she think it's my first night go ktv and think i dunno her plan is to sell the iphone and get me buy her a new one...knn

i must admit that is so fcking ultimate...:D

:eek: first time sit with u n pull this stunt? U must look like a big carrot to her. :p:D

vlover
13-10-2012, 05:44 PM
recently one vb told me "neu e tra iphone cho ng ta a co mua cho e k. e thay a k thich e nen k dam noi e so"

she think it's my first night go ktv and think i dunno her plan is to sell the iphone and get me buy her a new one...knn

i must admit that is so fcking ultimate..

This kinda of vb confirm eagle liao!! cos she is just so thick-skinned enough to ask you on your 1st visit!! if on my list, i strike off straight away!!! :cool:

Chun bo, u sang viet songs in front of me before leh
first time sit with u n pull this stunt? U must look like a big carrot to her.

you already answered the girl's query liao.. he can sing, speak TV well, handsome... so in the girl's eye, he is such a gem liao.. so dun waste time, just pop the question.. if he buys, he is a diamond carrot!! :D

Regards,
vlover

ilovedoggie
13-10-2012, 06:22 PM
Can't be illegal to rent out hdb room to these girls right? As long as keep to the max. head count allowed and these girls have valid visa, then shouldn't be a problem as far as renting to them is concerned. My neighbour used to rent to 4 Vietnamese girls but now no more already.

it is absolutely illegal to rent out hdb room to those girls as they only hold tourist pass.hdb just include a new clause in their rules that no renting to tourist. many ppl dunno but I heard some kena pao tor

forgotoldnick
13-10-2012, 10:25 PM
it is absolutely illegal to rent out hdb room to those girls as they only hold tourist pass.hdb just include a new clause in their rules that no renting to tourist. many ppl dunno but I heard some kena pao tor

Pao toh then ganna caught, what will happen? Hdb confiscate the flat or juat give warning?

SekLo
14-10-2012, 01:45 AM
it is absolutely illegal to rent out hdb room to those girls as they only hold tourist pass.hdb just include a new clause in their rules that no renting to tourist. many ppl dunno but I heard some kena pao tor

Is that so? If then, just regard my post as 放屁. Heng you posted about this, I'm still "warming up" a vb to come here and do supervise work as I rent my room to these girls. Damned! Another lobang gone!

raidz70
14-10-2012, 01:48 AM
Pao toh then ganna caught, what will happen? Hdb confiscate the flat or juat give warning?

will kanna confiscate.... but first timer usually warning. Many people are doing the same thing. Go look at pinoy who rent out the flat to their country mate.

ilovedoggie
14-10-2012, 03:56 AM
This kinda of vb confirm eagle liao!! cos she is just so thick-skinned enough to ask you on your 1st visit!! if on my list, i strike off straight away!!! :cool:


if he buys, he is a diamond carrot!!



she's not thick skinned but dark skinned hjhj... and at times i can be a diamond carrot :D

not first time sitting with me but i only sat with her once and i'd been trying to kc her for weeks but i deem it as a failure although she still contact me after she go back to vn.

Theres one time when going out with her i saw her new iphone 4s then i say, "wow... bay gio co nguoi k co nhu luc truoc roi...gio nay biet sai iphone roi" then she told me "nguoi ta cho e ma"

I keep on suaning her on this and then she told me that shit... but actually if she sell the iphone it doesnt really matter if she really love me(have to be proven by giving me free bonkssss though)

i somehow believe she got some financial difficulties even at the point of going back to vn. i somehow believe she dont go to KS with ppl...

Ooopsss... did i just got KC-ed? :eek::o

anyway i didn't burn my bridge with her yet... i heard some cases when money-game turn into feeling-game. let's see what happen next time when she's back...

ilovedoggie
14-10-2012, 04:00 AM
Is that so? If then, just regard my post as 放屁. Heng you posted about this, I'm still "warming up" a vb to come here and do supervise work as I rent my room to these girls. Damned! Another lobang gone!

can rent if u dare... i still see many ppl doing that. just dont get caught or get pao toh... heard some advice saying that make sure your girls dont let their customer know your unit number and make sure those girls dont yell or shriek at each other outside the unit or while playing cards inside the house like they usually do. keep it low profile. if your neighbours r ti ko pek then best... they welcome u the most hjhjhj....:D

desa
14-10-2012, 05:31 AM
U mai hai lang hor. :mad:

Wait he really do then tio liak... see if u feel guilty or not? :(

i think it is too risky business, may stand to all up the lorry to changi,i just want some good gal to look after the family well

OhMyGod
14-10-2012, 06:34 AM
can rent if u dare... i still see many ppl doing that. just dont get caught or get pao toh... heard some advice saying that make sure your girls dont let their customer know your unit number and make sure those girls dont yell or shriek at each other outside the unit or while playing cards inside the house like they usually do. keep it low profile. if your neighbours r ti ko pek then best... they welcome u the most hjhjhj....:D

Must keep low profile and if anyone ask, must say is friend house.

vietboy
14-10-2012, 08:00 AM
This kinda of vb confirm eagle liao!! cos she is just so thick-skinned enough to ask you on your 1st visit!! if on my list, i strike off straight away!!!

For me if kenna asked on my 1st visit, i quickly run! :D

vietboy
14-10-2012, 08:08 AM
I keep on suaning her on this and then she told me that shit... but actually if she sell the iphone it doesnt really matter if she really love me(have to be proven by giving me free bonkssss though)

Giving free boonks doesnt mean really love u. It is just bonking on credits. Some day have to return with interests hor, some interest are quite high! :eek:

anyway i didn't burn my bridge with her yet... i heard some cases when money-game turn into feeling-game. let's see what happen next time when she's back...

Be careful hor, when turn into a feelings game, u kenna hooked then "chet" roi ng oi!

jackbl
14-10-2012, 12:36 PM
Women’s Union leader acts as woman seeking a foreign husband
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VietNamNet Bridge - Ms. Le Thi Thuy Hang, Chair of the Women's Union of Co Do District, Can Tho City, played as a woman who desires to get married to a foreign man.

According to the Women's Union of Can Tho City, marrying to foreign men has become a “movement” in the city from 2008.

The peak time for this situation falls in 2008, 2009 and mid-2010. Since the HCM City police forces toughly attacked illegally marriage brokerage rings, matchmakers have shifted to new tricks.

When large-sized marriage brokerage networks in HCM City were stamped, brokerage rings have moved to the Mekong Delta.

In 2012, many meetings between foreign men and Vietnamese girls were held in the Mekong Delta. In Can Tho city alone, such meetings are regularly organized in the districts of Phong Dien, Co Do and Vinh Thanh.

Ms. Phan Thi Hong Nhung, Chair of the Can Tho City Women's Union, told VietNamNet that once matchmakers held a meeting for foreign men and Vietnamese girls in Co Do district. Ms. Le Thi Thuy Hang, Chair of Co Do District Women's Union, joined the meeting as a woman who was seeking a foreign husband.

Unexpectedly, a groom chose her and insisted to organize the wedding immediately to take her to China.

Hang reported the case to Co Do district authorities to prevent such illegal weddings.

Getting married without information

Head of the Legal Policy Division of the Can Tho Women’s Union, Ms. Ha Thi Kim Bau said that the union received petitions of Mrs. Nguyen Thi Ngoc Dung (mother of bride Nguyen Thi Diem Phuc, 23) and Mr. T, the father of bride Thuy Hang, who both married to Chinese men.

The Union had sent a dispatch to the Can Tho City Police Agency, asking for their assistance.

Then, the Union received a reply from the Police that in two cases are voluntary marriage and there is no sign of human trafficking.

According to Ms. Bau, in these cases, families did not provide the specific addresses abroad. Because of this, the Can Tho City Women's Union could not ask for the Vietnam Women’s Union’s intervention to rescue the brides.

The Can Tho City Women's Union has set up a center to support disadvantaged children and women who are rescued after being sold abroad.

Ms. Phan Thi Hong Nhung, Chair of Can Tho City Women's Union, told VietNamNet that getting married to foreign men is the right of every citizen and be legally recognized. However, many girls in the Mekong Delta do not marry for the purpose of building a happy family.

Nhung said that in some cases, parents force their children to marry foreigners to have money. Getting married to foreign men for fulfilling their filial duty is not true for all girls. This is the situation in Can Tho and the Mekong Delta provinces.

Can Tho: four women who marry Korean men died

The first case happened on April 30, 2007 for bride Le Thi Kim Dong, 21, from Thoi Hung commune, Co Do district.

In February 2008, the second case occurred for bride Tran Thanh La, 22, from Cai Rang district.

In July 201, bride Thach Thi Hong Ngoc, 20, from Thoi Hoa B hamlet, Co Do district was killed by her husband.

The most recent case happened in March 2012, bride Pham Thi Loan, 38, from Thot Not district, was brutally murdered by her husband.

Quoc Huy

vlover
14-10-2012, 03:41 PM
it is absolutely illegal to rent out hdb room to those girls as they only hold tourist pass.hdb just include a new clause in their rules that no renting to tourist. many ppl dunno but I heard some kena pao tor

This one ha, get a tua pek kong, then you sublet to him the whole unit.. so when HDB question, you say you sublet to the tenant and you dun know shit about what the guy is doing.. should get a warning without having ur flat confiscated..

but its not easy renting to these viet girls, they always get into trouble with neighbours with their loud voices while playing cards, dressing skimpily drowned in a bath tub of perfume when they gg for work and worst, quarrelling with customers or boyfriends or flings just outside their unit or void deck.. BEST!!

Regards,
vlover

vlover
14-10-2012, 03:43 PM
she's not thick skinned but dark skinned hjhj... and at times i can be a diamond carrot

Ooopsss... did i just got KC-ed?

anyway i didn't burn my bridge with her yet... i heard some cases when money-game turn into feeling-game. let's see what happen next time when she's back...

Anyone can be a diamond carrot, very subjective.. at the end of the day, its your diamonds, so if you feel its worth it, why not?? ;)

Giving free boonks doesnt mean really love u. It is just bonking on credits. Some day have to return with interests hor, some interest are quite high!

Be careful hor, when turn into a feelings game, u kenna hooked then "chet" roi ng oi!

free bonks... FOC= Fuck on CREDIT!!!

if turn into feelings game, its not chet nguoi!! its chet NHIEU NHEIU nguoi...:eek::D

Regards,
vlover

jf66312
14-10-2012, 03:57 PM
she's not thick skinned but dark skinned hjhj... and at times i can be a diamond carrot :D

not first time sitting with me but i only sat with her once and i'd been trying to kc her for weeks but i deem it as a failure although she still contact me after she go back to vn.

Theres one time when going out with her i saw her new iphone 4s then i say, "wow... bay gio co nguoi k co nhu luc truoc roi...gio nay biet sai iphone roi" then she told me "nguoi ta cho e ma"

I keep on suaning her on this and then she told me that shit... but actually if she sell the iphone it doesnt really matter if she really love me(have to be proven by giving me free bonkssss though)

i somehow believe she got some financial difficulties even at the point of going back to vn. i somehow believe she dont go to KS with ppl...

Ooopsss... did i just got KC-ed? :eek::o

anyway i didn't burn my bridge with her yet... i heard some cases when money-game turn into feeling-game. let's see what happen next time when she's back...

go where hav fun find vb ha? thought your no came back liaoz...?:D

vietboy
14-10-2012, 05:52 PM
This one ha, get a tua pek kong, then you sublet to him the whole unit.. so when HDB question, you say you sublet to the tenant and you dun know shit about what the guy is doing.. should get a warning without having ur flat confiscated..

but its not easy renting to these viet girls, they always get into trouble with neighbours with their loud voices while playing cards, dressing skimpily drowned in a bath tub of perfume when they gg for work and worst, quarrelling with customers or boyfriends or flings just outside their unit or void deck.. BEST!!

Regards,
vlover

totally agreed. that are their standard behaviour and with that u will get standard complaints. :D

vietboy
14-10-2012, 05:54 PM
Anyone can be a diamond carrot, very subjective.. at the end of the day, its your diamonds, so if you feel its worth it, why not??



free bonks... FOC= Fuck on CREDIT!!!

if turn into feelings game, its not chet nguoi!! its chet NHIEU NHEIU nguoi...:eek::D

Regards,
vlover

no lah, only doggie 1 minh chet, noone else. :p:D

vlover
14-10-2012, 06:02 PM
no lah, only doggie 1 minh chet, noone else.

Nice seeing at the kopishop yday... I was sitting with KT, celebrating the end of his freedom and blessing the streets of joo Chiat with less one beast walking around!!!:eek:

Not only doggie, following him will be his current bx, her family, his new squeeze, n her family n the many more vbs who have invested their feelings in this diamond carrot:D;)!!!

Regards,
Vlover

vietboy
14-10-2012, 09:00 PM
Nice seeing at the kopishop yday... I was sitting with KT, celebrating the end of his freedom and blessing the streets of joo Chiat with less one beast walking around!!!

Oh? Which one is u? R u the one that we 1st met in U pub? :)
Ya, only JC less 1 hunter but GL still same same. :p

Not only doggie, following him will be his current bx, her family, his new squeeze, n her family n the many more vbs who have invested their feelings in this diamond carrot;)!!!

Regards,
Vlover

Oh ya! I forgot his 9 numbers. Plus this vb will be 10. Hjhj. :D

KangTuo
14-10-2012, 11:02 PM
Nice seeing at the kopishop yday... I was sitting with KT, celebrating the end of his freedom and blessing the streets of joo Chiat with less one beast walking around!!!

maybe need to wait another 1/2 year then have some freedom :(

Ya, only JC less 1 hunter but GL still same same.

con duong hai muoi bon... :D

KangTuo
14-10-2012, 11:07 PM
Oh? Which one is u? R u the one that we 1st met in U pub?

better not to know who is he... all there are super chiongster.
if your bx know that you know this group of chiongster... ..... ..... :p

i bet none in the group met you before.

vietboy
15-10-2012, 12:56 AM
better not to know who is he... all there are super chiongster.
if your bx know that you know this group of chiongster... ..... ..... :p

i bet none in the group met you before.

its ok.. my bx already know our this group of chiongster which includes u! :p:D

jackbl
15-10-2012, 04:18 AM
its ok.. my bx already know our this group of chiongster which includes u!

Chiongster that go to Long Phung & Quynh Giao????

vietboy
15-10-2012, 08:52 AM
Chiongster that go to Long Phung & Quynh Giao????

That area lah. Go LP & QG for dinner before/after chiong. :p plus MB. :D

vlover
15-10-2012, 01:53 PM
better not to know who is he... all there are super chiongster.
if your bx know that you know this group of chiongster... ..... ....

i bet none in the group met you before.

I not super chiongster k.. I am changing, to be a better man!!! :p

maybe need to wait another 1/2 year then have some freedom

con duong hai muoi bon

We were counting... We think Joo Chiat will be safe for another 1 year.. cos your bx will only be able to go back after a year after all the counting!! :D

So this one year, we will not fight with you over 24.. you can otot carry on!!

Chiongster that go to Long Phung & Quynh Giao????

If your bx know the grandmaster enough liao... he is ALWAYS around!!!

Regards,
vlover

AdGuy
15-10-2012, 11:53 PM
I not super chiongster k.. I am changing, to be a better man!!! :p

Regards,
vlover

Yah lor... nowadays u very free :D

ilovedoggie
16-10-2012, 12:58 AM
con duong hai muoi bon... :D

I hv some news tht our beloved con duong HMB is goin to be demolished and redeveloped into hotel or condo soon. the plot of land has been bought.

ilovedoggie
16-10-2012, 01:00 AM
no lah, only doggie 1 minh chet, noone else. :p:D

dm123... no wonder i kept sneezing these few days... vietboy u wan me chet luon isit????:mad:

vietboy
16-10-2012, 08:49 AM
We were counting... We think Joo Chiat will be safe for another 1 year.. cos your bx will only be able to go back after a year after all the counting!!

So this one year, we will not fight with you over 24.. you can otot carry on!!

Actually not totally safe at all, there will be times he cannot tahan n will give some reasons to stay out late. :p

If your bx know the grandmaster enough liao... he is ALWAYS around!!!
M

My bx knows there is this professor grandmaster as i will use him as 挡箭牌 sometimes when i sms my bx new words that she didnt teach me. But havent meet him in person yet. :D:p

vietboy
16-10-2012, 09:02 AM
dm123... no wonder i kept sneezing these few days... vietboy u wan me chet luon isit????:mad:

Then i can take over yur numbers.. :p

Wait, on second thought, better dont. U already a diamond carrot to them liao. They will expect the same from me n which i will never be. So better not. :p:D

jackbl
16-10-2012, 09:29 AM
I hv some news tht our beloved con duong HMB is goin to be demolished and redeveloped into hotel or condo soon. the plot of land has been bought.

Hotel for shorttime and condo for the VBs to stay :)

jackbl
16-10-2012, 09:49 AM
The dance floors of “death” in Saigon
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VietNamNet Bridge - In Ho Chi Minh City, which is considered the "cooling center" of the country, what do the authorities have to do to prevent “going to the dance floor” to becoming 'going to seek the death” as young playboys describe?


If ecstasy - the "specialty" of the so-called “going to dance floor” whirlwind has almost been suppressed by the police, since 2008, another corollary of night lights has appeared.

Weapons have quietly followed playboys to bars and discotheques, turning nightlife venues into risky places where people can lose their lives at any time because of small conflicts.

In Ho Chi Minh City, which is considered the "cooling center" of the country, what do the authorities have to do to prevent “going to the dance floor” to becoming 'going to seek the death” as young playboys describe?

Seven months after the shooting at 030XClub (District 3, Ho Chi Minh City), in which one was seriously injured, on September 16, 2012, a young man was stabbed to death in bar Now (District 12).

Nine days later, in the case at the Monaco bar (Go Vap District,) police had to suppress fire, but one lost his life.

A series of severe cases have occurred in bars in HCM City so far this year. In the case at the Monaco bar (Le Van Tho road, Ward 9, Go Vap district,) which occurred at dawn on September 25; if police officers did not promptly suppress fire, the number of dead victims would have increased.


Ready to fire

Seven months have passed but those who witnessed the shooting in 030Xclub were still scared.

At about 11pm, Ms. V, 33, from Tan Binh district, with 20 friends and family members entered the bar. After opening a bottle of wine at the request of V’s group, the waiter did not forget to look to the next table, where some young men with tattoos were sitting, to respectfully bow.

It is understandable because that group had the presence of Phung Anh Thai, 27, a native of Hanoi. Thai is young but he was always dedicatedly served by his juniors, a sign that this man was a rising face in the criminal world.

Not a long time after that, some people in V’s group accidentally spread to and had clashes with Thai’s group.

Mr. Pham Anh Tuan (born in 1976, from District 1), a member in V’s group was proactive to "conciliate" with Thai’s group. The problem was resolved smoothly.

However, less than half an hour later, as the bar was so crowded, people in V’s group continued having a clash with the group of Thai.

This time, the two sides insulted each other and the group of Thai threw glasses toward the table of V’s family. Tuan and other people in V’s group also threw bottles back to Thai’s table.

More than a dozen of guards at the 030XClub knew that the situation was tense so they tried to discourage and invited the two groups out. Thai and his juniors waited in front of the bar to take revenge against V’s group.

Seeing that Tuan came out, Thai approached and drew his short gun to point at Tuan’s neck and opened fire. By the close range, the bullet penetrated into the neck, making the victim collapse.

Thai and his group got a taxi to the home of his junior, named Cao Chu Hai (born 1988) and packed up to flee. Tuan was brought to the Cho Ray Hospital in a state of emergency, with a esophageal perforation, rupture of the anterior neck vertebrae. The man escaped from danger two days later.

HCM City Police identified that Thai got the first arrest warrant on charges of "causing public disorder" in Hanoi, so he went to Saigon to avoid being arrested. And yet, he had been sentenced eight years in jail for participating in a robbery.

This time, in order to show off before his juniors, the newly-emerging gangster tried to murder one and he got another warrant for "murder."

After several days of hiding himself in Thanh Hoa province, Thai returned to Ho Chi Minh City to give himself up to the police and confessed his whole crime.


Murders at night clubs

It is difficult to make accurate statistics of the number of violent and murder cases occurring at bars and discos in the city.

However, in dozens of cases that the HCM City police have discovered, it is easy to see that most of the killers were very young.

On September 18, 2012, the police of District 12 prosecuted the "murder" which happened at the Now bar on Le Van Khuong road, Hiep Thanh Ward, District 12.

Earlier, in the morning of September 18, Nguyen Duc Hoang Phuoc, 21, from Binh Tan District, and a group of friends entered the Now bar.

The table next to theirs was occupied by a group of youngsters led by Phan Thanh Tan, 24, from Hoc Mon District. While swinging, catching a glimpse from some members of the group of Tan, Phuoc swaggered in the consensus of the other members.

When the two groups were in a fight, Phuoc pulled out a knife to consecutively hit it in the chest of Tan, making the man collapse. Tan died on the way to the hospital because of critical wounds.

In the recent case that happened at the Monaco Bar, the police investigated to clarify the nature of the case.

Accordingly, in the morning of September 25, Mr. Nguyen Van Thanh (born 1973, from District 12) invited nine friends to the bar to celebrate his birthday.

At that time, Le Quoc An (born 1992, from Ward 14, Go Vap District) was sitting with his groups at the table next to An’s group. As the bar was crowded, members of the two groups accidentally stepped on the feet of each other, leading to quarrels. They simultaneously held bottles and chairs to beat each other.

At 2am, the bar was in chaos. People screamed and tried to run out to escape from the fight. In order to "handle" the case themselves, the bar’s guards closed the bar.

To show his relationship with gangsters in Go Vap, An called someone asking for help. Moments later, dozens of young people with weapons rushed to break the door of the bar to help An.

Seeing his disadvantage, Thanh and his friends fled out immediately but they were surrounded. Two of them were stabbed, with serious injuries. Thanh was stabbed to death. Monaco Bar’s guards could not do anything to prevent the fight.

The case only stopped when the police came and fired three consecutive shots into the air. The two groups fled into nearby alleys.

Quoc Quang

Honey Boon
16-10-2012, 12:17 PM
VBs now rather choose to stay far from GL areas ..... they don't mind pay a bit of taxi fares :confused:

Hotel for shorttime and condo for the VBs to stay :)

vietnam80
16-10-2012, 12:33 PM
[QUOTE=jackbl;7938224]The dance floors of “death” in Saigon
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Bro, if u dun mind, i found this video there the cong an rush in to the disco to find suspects of drugs and weapons...:eek:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i95VMEa4dGs&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGuwDNr_1g0&feature=related

desa
16-10-2012, 04:27 PM
any one familar with the city of can tho? i want to go vist there to see my gal

vietboy
16-10-2012, 09:31 PM
any one familar with the city of can tho? i want to go vist there to see my gal

Since yur gal is from Can Tho, u should ask her to bring u to places. Who else to ask better than a local? If not, u can just google Can Tho. Sure there are some info about it.

KangTuo
16-10-2012, 09:46 PM
Hotel for shorttime and condo for the VBs to stay :)

One stop service. good good :cool:;)

Honey Boon
17-10-2012, 01:36 PM
the developer also member of SBF :D

One stop service. good good :cool:;)

ilovedoggie
17-10-2012, 11:55 PM
the developer also member of SBF :D

marketing also SBF ppl :D

ilovedoggie
18-10-2012, 12:01 AM
VBs now rather choose to stay far from GL areas ..... they don't mind pay a bit of taxi fares :confused:

many kundu like me offer them free ride in hope of getting free bonks. sometimes even raba raba also no chance. huhuhu...:o:(

yummyymym
18-10-2012, 04:58 AM
Hi guys sorry got one sentence I really don't understand

Xi ngu mo thay to bun bo con hay hon gap a

Xi sleep talk see big noodle still more than meet you....

Anyone can assist in this translation thank you

KangTuo
18-10-2012, 07:50 AM
Hi guys sorry got one sentence I really don't understand

Xi ngu mo thay to bun bo con hay hon gap a

Xi sleep talk see big noodle still more than meet you....

Anyone can assist in this translation thank you

Xi sleep and dream of bowl of beef noodle better than see you

KangTuo
18-10-2012, 07:53 AM
many kundu like me offer them free ride in hope of getting free bonks. sometimes even raba raba also no chance. huhuhu...:o:(

at least hold hand and light kisses have ba....

when vb up my car, i say "e kg nam tay a, a kg pit lai xe"
when vb want get down of car and door is lock, they do not know how to unlock.
i will ask "e pit chia khoa o dau kg?" i will lean my face towards them...
subsequent ride, whenever they want to open the door, they will automatic kiss me liao :)

jackbl
18-10-2012, 09:32 AM
Mekong Delta girls “eager” in learning to become wives of Korean men
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VietNamNet Bridge – While waiting for a visa to go to South Korea with their husbands, a lot of brides in the Mekong Delta have undergone an intensive training course of three days to become good wives.


Express training

Intensive training classes are held in the city of Can Tho, reserved for women who marry to Korean men.

Each class has 25 trainees. The brides will spend three days to learn about the situation of Vietnamese women who get married with foreign men, everything that they need to know when they get married and a few points to note when they live abroad. These documents are compiled by the Can Tho City Women's Union.

In addition, the course also provides Vietnamese brides with the overview of South Korea, including the culture, food, clothing, communications, and how to care for their husbands and children.

However, as most of Vietnamese brides finish grades 9, 10, and 11, it makes difficult for Vietnamese brides to approach a new culture.

When being asked, they told VietNamNet’s reporters that everything they knew about South Korea is from movies.

The class also provides telephone numbers for emergency calls and support services for Vietnamese brides in case they face bad circumstances in Korea.

Also in the lecture, teacher Trinh Luong Hoang told a story: "There are women who went abroad with their foreign husbands but they called home, cried and asked their families to bring them back home. After asking their husbands, it turned out that the women left their home to follow other men. Specifically, their ex-boyfriends went to Korea as workers, they met again and resumed their relationship and the Korean husbands detected their affairs."

Through this story, the lecturer gave a warning to women who were about to go to Korea that they must be careful because all the guarantees for themselves abroad is only their husbands.


Intensive marriages

Many brides said that everything was conducted by matchmakers and the time was only from 3 to 5 days for meeting with and marrying to their foreign husbands.

After the wedding, Korean men return home. Their Vietnamese brides still stay in Vietnam waiting for the visa and go to Korea later.

Bride H.T.M.T., 20, in Can Tho City, married Oh To Jin, 42, said that she got married a Korean man because she loved Korea, a developed country, and Korean people. She also loved the tradition of Korean people in maintaining families of several generations.

Furthermore, marrying a man whose age is higher than hers is not a matter because he has a lot of experience and knows how to care for life, T said.

"They have money so they come to our country to get married. When the economic life is good, then I think we will have conditions to care for our family and our children," she added.

"It is not true that I do not want to get married with Vietnamese men, but seeing many boys of my age to drink coffee every morning, afternoon and evening, I'm tired of that scene,” she said.

“I decided to get married with a foreign man. The country that I love is Korea. I think I will be a good wife because I’m eager to learn," T said very confidently after two months of marrying a Korean man.

A woman named N.T.K.T., 22, from Hau Giang, married Lee Kyeong Ho, 47. They knew each other for three days before their wedding. The husband is only two years younger than her father.

T said: "I left school when I was a 9th grader to become a tailor. I dreamed of marrying a Korean for a long time. The age does not a matter. I just want to build a happy family."

In a talk with VietNamNet, Mr. Won Sun A, representative of a training center for Vietnamese brides who marry Korean men, in the Mekong Delta, said: “Most of the brides here find their husbands through brokers (illegal). In Korea, there are marriage brokers, and each man has to pay from $10,000 to $15,000 to brokerage services.”

Korean men choose to get married to Vietnamese women because of the similarity in culture. Vietnamese women are capable and meet the aspirations of many Korean men.

The center in Can Tho opened in October 2011 and so far it has trained over 1,000 Vietnamese brides, Won Sun A said.

According to the Can Tho City Women's Union, from 1997 to 2007, Vietnam had 180,000 women marrying to foreigners from more than 50 countries and territories. Of these, 38 percent married to Chinese, 29 percent to Taiwanese, and 8 percent married to South Korean.
From 2002 to 2010, about 40,000 Vietnamese women married to Korean, mainly in the Mekong Delta provinces of Dong Thap, Bac Lieu, Can Tho, Ca Mau, Ben Tre, Hau Giang, accounting for 79 percent of the total.

Quoc Huy

deptrai4u
18-10-2012, 09:49 AM
Xi sleep and dream of bowl of beef noodle better than see you
She means UFO (u fcuk off!)

Even dreaming of a bowl of noodles is better than seeing u means u are a waste of time for her.

vietboy
18-10-2012, 10:24 AM
Xi sleep and dream of bowl of beef noodle better than see you

I believed xi is a typo, should be XL, xin loi.

She means UFO (u fcuk off!)

Even dreaming of a bowl of noodles is better than seeing u means u are a waste of time for her.

Lol. Clear indication liao. 意思浅浅
Means not enticing enough for her to dream of.

yummyymym
18-10-2012, 11:20 AM
Lol cam on all. :) haha long time never ask for translation liao. Glad to see the help is still there. Ya man. Better IFO already. (I FUCK OFF) hehe.

Thanks all once again cheers

KangTuo
18-10-2012, 11:37 AM
I believed xi is a typo, should be XL, xin loi.


if it is a typo which suppose to be XL, it is not xin loi. it should be xao lon.
what a vb fcuk anyone off or when buc boi... they will not say xin loi.

actual fact...hardly can hear any vb say xin loi even if they are wrong
you have more to learn and understand vietnamese...

jackbl
19-10-2012, 12:11 AM
“Child killers” in the world of colored lights
================================================== =======

VietNamNet Bridge – Going to bars in Ho Chi Minh City has become a specific way of entertainment. When the wars for the right to supply alcohol, ecstasy, and call girls have been fiercely cracked down on by the police, the only fear at bars comes from boys at the awkward age.


"Buffalo boys" in the city

After big gangs were smashed by the police and order was resumed, the rebellion and change in the character of young people has become the focal point. "Big brothers" and "big sisters" now have to hide themselves to see the emergence of young gangsters.

In Saigon, "Nhicolai" or "nhoc ac" (bad boy) are the slang for young gangsters, who are immature but commonly have shocking actions, such as fighting against their seniors, fighting for satisfying their instant anger, etc. These boys are very easily manipulated by someone to do bad acts.

There are many cases, young boys committed murder but they did not understand why they did so. These boys are called “Tre trau” (buffalo boys) in the northern region. In general, "Nhicolai," "nhoc ac," "tre trau," or “ong ve” (called in Haiphong style) are the slang for the same group of young gangsters.

But the name is just a way to recognize a subject. One must witness by his own eyes to understand how fearful “buffalo boys” are and why many "elders" in the underworld have to accept “I’m wrong” when they are challenged by a strange teenager. They have to do so because if they do not, it will be highly possible that they will be killed by the teenage.

Before the farewell

An Suong intersection at 12pm. We followed a group of "hell drivers" (illegal racers) who we knew from an illegal race in Binh Thanh District three months ago. The group called at a bar named V.

The group, led by Th. "Bac" (19) entered the bar before the bow of the other four members of another group that had been there already.

Waiters arranged two tables near the DJ podium for the two groups. The coming of these young boys made the air become agitated.

Th’s group went to this bar to receive football betting winnings from the other group. That group bought a bottle of Hennessy to Th’s group.

One boy in Th’s group told me: "We are in the group of T “gas” (his family has a gas agency). We have just left home for over a week so we still have a lot of "rice" (money). They said if we spend all the money, next week they will sell a Suzuki Sport motorbike, which must be over 100 bottles (VND100 million - $5,000)."

Pointing to the smallest boy in the group, who looks the most holy, the boy continued: "That boy is Minh, 15, who just dropped school for a half of month. His parents divorced, his mother has her boyfriend, his father married again. Last week he had a fight in Hoc Mon and suffered from sprains. Arriving at the hotel, he cried like a girl."

He finished talking and laughed loudly, to show that for him, that was a weakness that can not be accepted. I turned to the guy named Minh and caught his fierce glint.

The bar began to get really “hot” after 1am. The two groups began shouting, drinking constantly. When the 2nd bottle was almost empty, Minh rushed into the toilet to vomit. Returning back, he held Th’s shoulder and shouted: "Do you know the guy who wears the white T-shirt in the other table? He has threatened to beat me."

Th, in the role of a leader in his group, immediately comforted Minh "Let me" and walked to the table of the opponent.

A member in the other group, who held a girl in one arm, drove Th away back to his table by the other hand. Being afraid of losing his face in front of his juniors, Th grabbed the collar of that guy to threaten him.

A dozen of young guys in that group immediately surrounded Th. Th’s juniors rushed to protect their leader. Minh held an alcohol bottle, screaming: "I'll kill all of us now."

The bar’s guards immediately approached to intervene and their policy is "If you want to do anything, let’s get out of here. This is the place to do business."

Both groups left the bar in angrily. Minh aggressively insisted to take his knife from his motorbike, kept at the parking lot, to kill his opponents. I and another guy in Th’s group tried our best to prevent Minh and Th to withdraw.

On the way to a hotel on the Phan Huy Ich road, Tan Binh district, occasionally Minh screamed "I'm an orphan. What do you want? I want to kill all."

Meanwhile, Th planed to invite the other group to a party the next day for reconciliation, but in fact he wanted to snare his opponents, to take revenge to wash the shame of today.

I was scared by the "cunning" of the 19-year-old boy. They meet at bars not for entertainment but to create “deathly farewells.”

Quoc Quang
To be continued

raidz70
19-10-2012, 07:15 AM
if it is a typo which suppose to be XL, it is not xin loi. it should be xao lon.
what a vb fcuk anyone off or when buc boi... they will not say xin loi.

actual fact...hardly can hear any vb say xin loi even if they are wrong
you have more to learn and understand vietnamese...

Bro KT... does that mean if a VB say xin loi very rare?

this VB told me before toi thanh that xin loi ban. toi khong tot.
After that i no longer heard from her again :(

KangTuo
19-10-2012, 08:21 AM
Bro KT... does that mean if a VB say xin loi very rare?

this VB told me before toi thanh that xin loi ban. toi khong tot.
After that i no longer heard from her again :(

rare very rare especially for things they are wrong...
from the sms the vb send you, she say sorry not for things that she do wrong... such sms only make you miss her :)

jackbl
19-10-2012, 10:01 AM
Decoding crimes behind color lights
================================================== =====

VietNamNet Bridge – When two girls finished their sexy dances on the platform, a middle-aged man was so excited, so he stepped up on the platform to hold the pillar and dance rabidly. Below, a group of young boys snickered. Hatred began.

Going to bars is dangerous but playboys in HCM City always know that the most secure destinations are located in District 1 and District 3. Meanwhile, the bars in the districts of Go Vap, Tan Phu, Binh Tan have latent risks, why?

In most of the cases that the HCM City police force discovered, many cases have become lessons in security and order management for local authorities.

It is worth noting that adjacent areas between districts are always the easy places for crimes because of loose coordination among district authorities.

There are a lot of night clubs, karaoke parlors, cafes and restaurants in the adjacent area of the districts of Go Vap and Tan Binh, including Monaco Bar. This is the venue for playboys from the four districts of Go Vap, Tan Binh, District 12 and Hoc Mon, especially on the weekends.

In the January-July period of 2012, the Go Vap district had 133 criminal cases, an increase of 8 compared to the same period of 2011. The district police forces investigated 104 cases and arrested 134 people.

Recently, a gang, led by a woman, kidnapped a debtor to a house in Go Vap District, forced him to write a promissory note of VND1.5 billion ($75,000). The police quickly rescued the victim.

On September 25, a murder occurred at Monaco Bar, located in this area. The bar closed after the incident. However, after Monaco closed, a new bar has opened, not very far from it. Will it be the second Monaco Bar?



“Float” and “salvage"

A group of young men led us to the N.Tr café on Le Duc Tho Street, Ward 17, Go Vap District. Though it is a café, N.Tra is actually a night club.

In the bar, there are nearly 30 tables, three platforms for sexy dancers and three sofas. At 11.30pm, the bar was extremely noise by dozens of young people who were dancing madly in very loud music.

We nodded to the music for about half an hour when a group of young men entered the bar, sitting around two tables beside us. It seemed that they were drunk already and perhaps took ecstasy, so they moved their table near to the loudspeakers.

A moment later, the members of this group stood up to dance in front of the loudspeakers, with the melody of the newly-emerging song “Gangnam Style” by Korean singer Psy. They also aped the horse dance by Pys, making the guards in the bar to smile.

It sounded that after the Monaco case, bars are more interested in security activities. When that group moved closely to our table, three guards approached to require them to give us some space and urged them to return to their tables.

After 12pm, most customers began getting drunk. Two young girls stepped to the dance platforms to perform dances with pillars. Those they were not perfect performers, the girls were still warmly cheered.

The group of over ten people, who occupied the largest salon in the bar, was served by three young girls. When the two dancers finished their shows, a man of around 35 years old in this group was so excited. He stepped to a platform to dance around the pillar. Below, teens snickered.

Guards in the bar several times asked the man to leave the platform but perhaps he was the best potential customer of the night, so the bar manager let him to “show off.”

The group of teenagers near our table began to be bored with dancing around the loudspeakers. They also wanted to join the man on the platform. Guards again had to beg them to come back to their tables to avoid a collision.

Within two hours at this bar, we understood that even the smallest conflict can become a fierce clash among customers at night clubs.

In July 2012, the Ho Chi Minh City Court of Appeal rejected the appeal of Tran Chi Tam, 25, Le Hiep Thanh, 19 and Tran Thanh Ngoc, 25 and maintained the life sentence on these defendants. Tow others, Nguyen Chi Hao, 18, and Le Minh Canh, 24, got 15 and 14 years in prison on charges of "murder."

Tam’s group used to go to Galaxy bar on Hoang Le Kha Road, Tay Ninh town, Tay Ninh province to drink and dance, with a weapon. Being afraid of these gangsters, the bar’s manager allowed the group to use the bar’s services for free, considering them as “protectors.” This group caused a murder at the bar later.

Quoc Quang

vietboy
20-10-2012, 11:25 PM
if it is a typo which suppose to be XL, it is not xin loi. it should be xao lon.
what a vb fcuk anyone off or when buc boi... they will not say xin loi.

actual fact...hardly can hear any vb say xin loi even if they are wrong
you have more to learn and understand vietnamese...

Yes, Grandmaster KT. I agreed with u the i have more to learn and understand vietnamese but I disagreed with u on a few pionts.

1. according to the way that is wrtten, yummyymym must have asked if she dreamt of him when sleeping. then her reply, when translated into singlish will be: sorry hor, i rather dream of a bowl of beef noodle than dream of u. Think best is for yummyymym to provide the context of the conversation that made the vb made this remark.

2. Wow! u made a sweeping statement. vb dun say sorry = all vietnamese also dun say sorry? Include the guys? Yes, they may be stubborn, but when they are wrong and they will admit their mistake and apologised, provided they respect you and treat u as a friend. Those vbs that u mentioned are all those in the flesh trade, of cos they will only respect money than respect u. To them we are just another carrot.

3. There is a couple of times my bx did something wrong and made me angry, she realised it was her fault, she apologises to me. Also, I have viet friends who apolgises to me for failing to meet up as promised and for being late. So are you saying they are not vietnamese?:rolleyes:

shysaint
21-10-2012, 07:09 PM
actual fact...hardly can hear any vb say xin loi even if they are wrong

U are Absolutely 100% correct ...

you have more to learn and understand vietnamese...

Now then you know .. hahaha ...

I long time ago already sound that out ... Or didn't I .. hmmm kekekek .....

shysaint
21-10-2012, 07:12 PM
from the sms the vb send you, she say sorry not for things that she do wrong... such sms only make you miss her :)

Yeah correct interpretation ... Many guys misinterpreted thw message send by vbs ..

Guessed in other words is You are no longer needed .. pls f..k off .....

vietboy
21-10-2012, 09:51 PM
Now then you know .. hahaha ...

I long time ago already sound that out ... Or didn't I .. hmmm kekekek .....

Oh. Now then i know. But lets see who will have the last laugh. :rolleyes::D

shysaint
21-10-2012, 10:54 PM
Oh. Now then i know. But lets see who will have the last laugh. :rolleyes::D

NO need to see lah ... N ... NO Need to Set Challenges ...

Confirm + 100% you SURE got the LAST Laugh ...

ilovedoggie
22-10-2012, 12:31 AM
rare very rare especially for things they are wrong...
from the sms the vb send you, she say sorry not for things that she do wrong... such sms only make you miss her :)

the master has spoken...

usually after that they will come out with some stories... in a nutshell... its $$$ related...:D

Seletar
22-10-2012, 12:42 AM
rare very rare especially for things they are wrong...
from the sms the vb send you, she say sorry not for things that she do wrong... such sms only make you miss her :)

you are right man. In the middle of the night, just only now receive a msg..E xjn loj dung buon e.. MAKE ME MISS HER. BTW, why she used j instead of i, ?:confused:

vietboy
22-10-2012, 12:44 AM
NO need to see lah ... N ... NO Need to Set Challenges ...

Confirm + 100% you SURE got the LAST Laugh ...

Bro shysaint, it is not my intend to set any challenges to anyone leh n nothing is for 100% sure lah. Only time will tell.... In the meantime, we just have to enjoy ourselves n enjoy the process. Cheers! :)

ilovedoggie
22-10-2012, 01:50 AM
you are right man. In the middle of the night, just only now receive a msg..E xjn loj dung buon e.. MAKE ME MISS HER. BTW, why she used j instead of i, ?:confused:

bro seletar... u nvr follow the thread close enough rite? hehe...

this i and j thing has been discussed umpteen times in this thread...

btw... ur vb probably use non qwerty keypad hp... meanig like those nokia phone where j is a faster way to replace i.

and j standalone could mean "gi"

ilovedoggie
22-10-2012, 01:50 AM
bro shysaint, it is not my intend to set any challenges to anyone leh n nothing is for 100% sure lah. Only time will tell.... In the meantime, we just have to enjoy ourselves n enjoy the process. Cheers! :)

FAIL! LoL!

yummyymym
22-10-2012, 03:30 AM
Can anyone help

Bi can dien thoai. What it means

yummyymym
22-10-2012, 04:45 AM
Can anyone help

Bi can dien thoai. What it means

lol never mind. don't think I misinterpreted it.

feeling need to call.

thought bi can may mean another thing combined together.

yummyymym
22-10-2012, 04:48 AM
Yes, Grandmaster KT. I agreed with u the i have more to learn and understand vietnamese but I disagreed with u on a few pionts.

1. according to the way that is wrtten, yummyymym must have asked if she dreamt of him when sleeping. then her reply, when translated into singlish will be: sorry hor, i rather dream of a bowl of beef noodle than dream of u. Think best is for yummyymym to provide the context of the conversation that made the vb made this remark.

2. Wow! u made a sweeping statement. vb dun say sorry = all vietnamese also dun say sorry? Include the guys? Yes, they may be stubborn, but when they are wrong and they will admit their mistake and apologised, provided they respect you and treat u as a friend. Those vbs that u mentioned are all those in the flesh trade, of cos they will only respect money than respect u. To them we are just another carrot.

3. There is a couple of times my bx did something wrong and made me angry, she realised it was her fault, she apologises to me. Also, I have viet friends who apolgises to me for failing to meet up as promised and for being late. So are you saying they are not vietnamese?:rolleyes:

Sorry so late then reply. I was just telling her dream must see me. So she replied that.

Ps BTW Xi means shhhh. Some
Type of slang again.

vietboy
22-10-2012, 08:33 AM
lol never mind. don't think I misinterpreted it.

feeling need to call.

thought bi can may mean another thing combined together.

No no. Hidden meaning is need new handphone. Can u buy me 1, carrot? :p:D

vietboy
22-10-2012, 08:36 AM
Sorry so late then reply. I was just telling her dream must see me. So she replied that.

Ps BTW Xi means shhhh. Some
Type of slang again.

Xi = shhh? another Gen Y lingo?
BTW, how u know it means shhh? She tell u or u guess?

yummyymym
22-10-2012, 10:09 AM
No no. Hidden meaning is need new handphone. Can u buy me 1, carrot? :p:D

Lol lol maybe

yummyymym
22-10-2012, 10:10 AM
Xi = shhh? another Gen Y lingo?
BTW, how u know it means shhh? She tell u or u guess?

I told me. Not I guess one

Honey Boon
22-10-2012, 12:45 PM
is the process ..... that you enjoy the most :D

many kundu like me offer them free ride in hope of getting free bonks. sometimes even raba raba also no chance. huhuhu...:o:(

jf66312
22-10-2012, 01:34 PM
the master has spoken...

usually after that they will come out with some stories... in a nutshell... its $$$ related...:D

lol...me receive a sms middle of nite " con heo ox...i miss you "
i receive and call within 5 mins but no pick up after 3 tries... haiz....:confused:

jf66312
22-10-2012, 01:34 PM
is the process ..... that you enjoy the most :D

any new processes encounters recently >??:D

Honey Boon
22-10-2012, 04:49 PM
has been following the master to 13/15 recently ..... no strength no HC... huhuhu :p

btw... when coming back to give tips to the vbs in singapore?, so that they can buy iphone 5 for their bf back home :D

any new processes encounters recently >??:D

V|ernar
22-10-2012, 05:09 PM
you are right man. In the middle of the night, just only now receive a msg..E xjn loj dung buon e.. MAKE ME MISS HER. BTW, why she used j instead of i, ?:confused:

because j only press 1 time and i need to press 3 times .. in vn 90 percent of them still using 2G phone .

vietboy
22-10-2012, 07:38 PM
lol...me receive a sms middle of nite " con heo ox...i miss you "
i receive and call within 5 mins but no pick up after 3 tries... haiz....:confused:

Be careful wo. Sometimes is spies from yur bx to test u out. I kenna b4. Received a sms "darling, i miss u." Called back a vb answer, luckliy my hearing good, find the voice a bit famailar sounded like my bx's neighbour and plus can hear got someone behind giggling. So i quickly ask is it my bx. Lucky call out to the correct name, if not cannot pass the test. :D

Golden question
22-10-2012, 07:55 PM
Yes, Grandmaster KT. I agreed with u the i have more to learn and understand vietnamese but I disagreed with u on a few pionts.

1. according to the way that is wrtten, yummyymym must have asked if she dreamt of him when sleeping. then her reply, when translated into singlish will be: sorry hor, i rather dream of a bowl of beef noodle than dream of u. Think best is for yummyymym to provide the context of the conversation that made the vb made this remark.

2. Wow! u made a sweeping statement. vb dun say sorry = all vietnamese also dun say sorry? Include the guys? Yes, they may be stubborn, but when they are wrong and they will admit their mistake and apologised, provided they respect you and treat u as a friend. Those vbs that u mentioned are all those in the flesh trade, of cos they will only respect money than respect u. To them we are just another carrot.

3. There is a couple of times my bx did something wrong and made me angry, she realised it was her fault, she apologises to me. Also, I have viet friends who apolgises to me for failing to meet up as promised and for being late. So are you saying they are not vietnamese?:rolleyes:

This sentence very hard to swallow:p:D

jackbl
23-10-2012, 12:06 AM
后港咖啡店出现穿着性感的越南流莺,假吃东西真猎物,找中老年男人下手,有人目睹阿伯带着其中 一女离开。

这起气闻发生在后港8道第435座组楼下的咖啡店,据悉这个现象已持续了将近一年。

食客曹女士(50多岁)透露,咖啡店不时出现穿着性感的越南和中国女,她们表面上是在用餐,但真正目的是借 机接近其他正在用餐的男食客,以色诱他们。

据曹女士了解,这些女子都是单独行事,用餐半途看见邻座有男子时,就会转移阵地与男子搭讪,她曾一度看到多 达6名性感流莺同时出现,向不同男人下手。

Seletar
23-10-2012, 12:07 AM
because j only press 1 time and i need to press 3 times .. in vn 90 percent of them still using 2G phone .

Good brain. :)

Seletar
23-10-2012, 12:09 AM
后港咖啡店出现穿着性感的越南流莺,假吃东西真猎物,找中老年男人下手,有人目睹阿伯带着其中 一女离开。

这起气闻发生在后港8道第435座组楼下的咖啡店,据悉这个现象已持续了将近一年。

食客曹女士(50多岁)透露,咖啡店不时出现穿着性感的越南和中国女,她们表面上是在用餐,但真正目的是借 机接近其他正在用餐的男食客,以色诱他们。

据曹女士了解,这些女子都是单独行事,用餐半途看见邻座有男子时,就会转移阵地与男子搭讪,她曾一度看到多 达6名性感流莺同时出现,向不同男人下手。

Will go and try this weekend.:p

yummyymym
23-10-2012, 09:09 AM
Uhm e dang uong ong xa che che a trinh moi mua dum e

Errr anyone can help in this translation

Yes I am drinking Ong Xa che che. You trinh moi buy dum e


No head no tail

KangTuo
23-10-2012, 09:31 AM
Uhm e dang uong ong xa che che a trinh moi mua dum e

Errr anyone can help in this translation

Yes I am drinking Ong Xa che che. You trinh moi buy dum e


No head no tail

ong xa (husband) che che (jie jie, sister)
a trinh (ah trinh) .... name of the sister ong xa ????
mua dum = help buy

yummyymym
23-10-2012, 09:34 AM
ong xa (husband) che che (jie jie, sister)
a trinh (ah trinh) .... name of the sister ong xa ????
mua dum = help buy

Understood liao.

I am drinking. Husband of sister help buy for me.

yummyymym
23-10-2012, 09:34 AM
ong xa (husband) che che (jie jie, sister)
a trinh (ah trinh) .... name of the sister ong xa ????
mua dum = help buy

But what is trinh moi?

songsonglah
23-10-2012, 09:44 AM
Trinh is name of ox cua chi. Moi is something like just.

ilovedoggie
23-10-2012, 12:01 PM
any new processes encounters recently >??:D

when u come back to help me work so that I can go hh or sh?

Honey Boon
23-10-2012, 12:51 PM
many of our cheong brothers also using Nokia 2G phone as their cheong phone :D

because j only press 1 time and i need to press 3 times .. in vn 90 percent of them still using 2G phone .

vietboy
23-10-2012, 07:26 PM
Uhm e dang uong ong xa che che a trinh moi mua dum e

Errr anyone can help in this translation

Yes I am drinking Ong Xa che che. You trinh moi buy dum e


No head no tail

With punctuations can also be :
Uhm, e dang uong, ong xa.
che che, a trinh, (姐姐by the name of ah trinh) moi mua dum e.

vietboy
23-10-2012, 07:28 PM
Understood liao.

I am drinking. Husband of sister help buy for me.

But what is trinh moi?

Thought u understood liao?? :confused:

Hint: Trinh n moi are separate words.

ilovedoggie
23-10-2012, 09:57 PM
Be careful wo. Sometimes is spies from yur bx to test u out. I kenna b4. Received a sms "darling, i miss u." :D

sometimes it's ppl like viernar or me or Jf playing this on Jackbl hjhjhj:D

KangTuo
23-10-2012, 10:09 PM
With punctuations can also be :
Uhm, e dang uong, ong xa.
che che, a trinh, (姐姐by the name of ah trinh) moi mua dum e.

u r correct... where got a guy name trinh

KangTuo
24-10-2012, 07:53 AM
Be careful wo. Sometimes is spies from yur bx to test u out. I kenna b4. Received a sms "darling, i miss u." Called back a vb answer, luckliy my hearing good, find the voice a bit famailar sounded like my bx's neighbour and plus can hear got someone behind giggling. So i quickly ask is it my bx. Lucky call out to the correct name, if not cannot pass the test. :D

i kana before also. but i got a standard answer for vb who dont want to identify themselve :)

KangTuo
24-10-2012, 07:54 AM
many of our cheong brothers also using Nokia 2G phone as their cheong phone :D

some use 2G phone with tape wrapped around :p

vietboy
24-10-2012, 09:07 AM
many of our cheong brothers also using Nokia 2G phone as their cheong phone :D

Recently switched back to 2G phones, have difficultly getting used to it, super slow in replying sms. Too used to iphone liao.

some use 2G phone with tape wrapped around :p

Mine no tape, can easily dismantle into 4 pics, 1 front outer cover, 1 keypad, 1 screen cover, 1 main body. :eek::p

jackbl
24-10-2012, 09:07 AM
Controversial regulations in Hanoi
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VietNamNet Bridge - Officials and Party members not allowed to invite more than 300 guests to their weddings; changing the school hours; closing all parking lots in the inner areas; covering intersections are among the most controversial provisions in Hanoi.

In earlier October, the Hanoi Party Committee issued a directive requiring officials and party members to be examples in organizing weddings for themselves and their children. Accordingly, the number of wedding guests must be less than 300 people. Weddings are not encouraged to be held at 5-star hotel or luxury resorts.

However, according to many people, the regulation has interfered too deeply into personal lives. "This is a strange provision, it is fine for encouraging people to practice thrift, not making it a prohibition", one reader wrote.

Another said: "I’ve never heard about the restriction of wedding guests. Many people not only invite their close friends but many others, because that's their culture."

Many questioned about the monitoring mechanism of the regulation. However, the Hanoi Party Committee remains determined to implement the directive.

Accordingly, if the people and organizations finding officials and party members breaking the rules, they can report to the organizations where the violators work. The Hanoi Party Committee’s Inspectorate is responsible for monitoring the implementation of the directive.

In February 2012, Hanoi began to change the school and working hours in 10 inner and 2 suburban districts to reduce traffic congestion during peak hours.

Accordingly, universities, academies, colleges, vocational schools, and high school started school before 7am, closed after 7pm. Pre-schools, primary schools, and secondary schools started school from 8am and closed at 5pm. State agencies of all levels began working at 8am and ended at 5pm. Business and service center started from 9am and closed after 7pm.

Many people said that the inadequacies of the change of school and working hours would not bring high effects in reducing congestion, but would affect the health of students and upset the routine family.

In fact, when the change was just applied, many students had to leave school when it was dark. Many schoolgirls in the suburbs were joking around, met accidents while many families lost their connection because there were no longer common breakfast and dinner, when family members had different schedules. Many schools had to equip additional lighting systems to serve late classes.

After more than half of a year, the change has gradually taken effect on urban traffic. According to the Hanoi transport department, the number of vehicles during the rush hours has reduced. Some frequent congestion sites have been relieved.

Also in early 2012, Hanoi decided to ban parking lots in 262 streets. This ban is legal but it still caused a stir in the public opinion because previously, the city had licensed a lot of carparks along streets, making a bad habit for the people and now it suddenly closed all of them without opening new parking lots.

Some people said that the ban would reduce traffic congestion, limit the use of personal vehicles, especially cars. However, many others said restricting personal vehicles is limiting economic development, making it difficult for people, while public transport is underdeveloped.

In the early days, many vehicle owners had to struggle to find parking places and they had to pay higher parking fees than before. To the needs of the people, Hanoi is rushing to build a series of multi-storey car parks and underground parking lots. In addition, some districts have proposed to re-open some car parks on the street to facilitate the people.

Also related to the restriction of personal vehicles, in 2003, the Hanoi People's Committee decided to stop motorcycle registration in 7 districts. However, the goal of reducing vehicles was not achieved. Many people asked others to purchase and register vehicles in suburban districts and put the vehicles into circulation in the inner city.

Many congressmen said that the regulation violates the Civil Code about the property ownership of citizens. According to the law, Vietnamese citizens have the right to own two or even 10 or more motorcycles, if the property is legal.

After two years of implementation, this regulation was proven to be ineffective and it was criticized for violating the Civil Code, so the Hanoi People's Committee annulled the decision.

In April 2009, the Hanoi Department of Transportation experimentally used hard separators to cover intersections and opened new turns, which were a few hundred meters from the intersections.

From the Hanoi People's Council deputies to ordinary people all said that no capital in the world close their intersections and prevent the pedestrian from crossing the street. Deputy Bui Thi An proposed that if intersections are covered, the authorities have to build overpasses for the pedestrian.

However, the transport sector insisted that this method is to serve the masses, to curb congestion.

After six months, Hanoi officials admitted the limited effectiveness of this measure while the risk of accidents for pedestrians increased.

The transport sector had to remove separators at some intersections.

Translated by M. Lan

vietboy
24-10-2012, 09:10 AM
u r correct... where got a guy name trinh

Yeah, some names u see u can tell the person is a female. Unless is LB. :p:D

vietboy
24-10-2012, 09:11 AM
i kana before also. but i got a standard answer for vb who dont want to identify themselve :)

Can share share yur standard answer? :D

V|ernar
24-10-2012, 01:40 PM
sometimes it's ppl like viernar or me or Jf playing this on Jackbl hjhjhj:D

until now you still cannot forget ha ~

KangTuo
25-10-2012, 08:31 AM
Can share share yur standard answer? :D

a co di ks voi e lan nao chua? neu chua co di, a kg nho e la ai.
neu e muon a nho e la ai thi di ks voi a :)

try this answer

vietboy
25-10-2012, 08:35 AM
a co di ks voi e lan nao chua? neu chua co di, a kg nho e la ai.
neu e muon a nho e la ai thi di ks voi a :)

try this answer

Lol.. If the other side yur bx is hearing this, u will know wat to expect. :D

songsonglah
25-10-2012, 10:18 AM
Lol.. If the other side yur bx is hearing this, u will know wat to expect. :D

Pardon my stupidity. But what should he expect?

vietboy
25-10-2012, 07:02 PM
Pardon my stupidity. But what should he expect?

Try it with yur bx, u will know the answer. :D:p

STi-
26-10-2012, 01:23 AM
Any bros got tips and guidance to share for going to vietnam? My 1st trip heading to hanoi. Are they using more on USD or Dong? Is it easy to get a taxi around, I hear that taxi are expensive over there? My TV cannot make it so do people there speaks english or chinese? Any bros able to assist and share some experience so that not only me but bros from this forum can gain some knowledge from here. Cheers! :)

songsonglah
26-10-2012, 01:24 AM
Try it with yur bx, u will know the answer. :D:p

I don't have bx lah. Just occasional drinker at joo chiat. The vbs there don't think I'm worth their effort to seduce cause 1 month I only go 1-2 times. Next the time I go again, the one sat with me before already go back.

jackbl
26-10-2012, 08:40 AM
All sex workers in HCM City to be released
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VietNamNet Bridge – All prostitutes who are being managed at the HCM City Social Labor Education Center will be released in accordance with the Law on Handling of Administrative Violations. The authorities worry of an outbreak of prostitution in Saigon.


Mr. Nguyen Ngoc Thach, head of the Social Evils Prevention Division of the Ho Chi Minh City Department of Labour, Invalids and Social Affairs, told VNExpress online newswire that the Social Labor Education Center currently manages 79 sex workers. These people have had to pay administrative fines several times and now they are being vocationally trained at the center.

"They will be released in accordance with the Law on Handling of Administrative Violations," Thach said and expressed his concern that if all prostitutes are released, they will not have any place to return nor a job because most of them are homeless and uneducated.

At present, Vietnam does not have specific provisions on helping prostitutes to reintegrate into the community. In particular, up to eight percent of the sex workers who are about to be released are HIV carriers.

Under the Law on Handling of Administrative Violations that was approved by the National Assembly, from July 2012, prostitutes will not be sent to social education centers. They will have to pay administrative fines only (VND300,000 - $15 for the first time and VND5 million if the violation is repeated). After that the local government is responsible for creating favorable conditions for sex workers to integrate into the community.

However, Thach said that after the Law on Handling of Administrative Violations was adopted, prostitution in HCM City shows signs of increasing. When they are caught in action, sex workers are willing to pay a fine and then continue their job because they know that they will not be managed or sent to social education and treatment centers as before.

Thach also said that the crimes related to prostitution also take advantage of the law to expand the scale of operation. If teenagers see sexual relationship to be very easy - just paying money to be sexually satisfied - the good values of love and marriage will be overlooked. Meanwhile, young girls who have no job will be easily drawn into prostitution for high profit while not being punished.

The HCM City Bureau for Social Evils Prevention has proposed the Government and relevant ministries to take tougher measures on prostitution besides educating and raising the awareness for sex workers.

Specifically, those who have a job and stable income but still work as prostitutes, for example the winners of beauty pageants, models, artists, must have their titles revoked and be banned from performing activities.

Those who have a home, in addition to administrative sanctions and sending their records to the local government, will be criticized in front of local residents if they repeat the violation. Those who do not have a home will be sent to social patronage centers.

The bureau also proposed to aggravate punishment on whore-masters who are civil servants and members of the armed forces.

Compiled by Nam Nguyen

jackbl
26-10-2012, 08:53 AM
Import mobile phones cost too much money for Vietnamese
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VietNamNet Bridge – Despite the current big economic difficulties, the mobile phone market has been growing steadily. The national economy has spent billions of dollars to import the luxurious products.

A report by the General Department of Customs (GDC) has shown that Vietnam had spent 3.7 billion dollars by October 15 to import mobile phones and accessories.


The money spending race

The people, who call themselves the authentic citizens of the digital age, have been showing off their newly bought iPhone 5s on Facebook, Yahoo! and other social networks. Classified ads of newspapers show the offers to sell iPhone 4 and iPhone 4S, nearly brand new, because the products’ owners are going to buy the latest generation iPhone – iPhone 5.

Nguyen Dong, 28, an office worker in HCM City, said he has sold his iPhone 4 at 8 million dong, and then bought an iPhone 5 at 23 million dong right after seeing the iPhone 5 in the hands of a colleague.

When asked why Dong insists on an iPhone 5, though his iPhone 4 still keeps working properly, Dong said he is a fan of high technology products, which would become out of date just overnight.

Huu, a businessman in district 10 of HCM City, said that he is a loyal client of Apple’s products. Therefore, he has many Apple’s things, including iPhone 3, iPhone 4S and iPhone 5, and the New iPad.

“Previously, I kept every product of Apple, but I have just sold some of them, because they have been left unused,” he said, adding that he has bought the New iPad for the daughter who likes listening to music and playing games.

Especially, a lot of Vietnamese people tried to possess an iPhone 5 very soon; right after the first products hit the shelves in the US. Apple’s announced retail prices are 199, 299 and 399 dollars, while some Vietnamese people accepted to pay 30 million dong, or nearly 1500 dollars, to have the super products soon, before the products are available on a large scale in Vietnam.

The Vietnamese tendency of using luxurious expensive products instead of reasonable ones has helped make new high technology products sell like hot cakes in Vietnam, even though Vietnam is just a small part of the world’s high technology product market.



Too much dollar spent on luxurious products

Also according to the General Department of Customs, the import turnover of mobile phones and phone accessories in the first nine months of the year reached 3.44 billion dollars, an increase of 92 percent over the same period of the last year.

The figure would be even higher if counting on the mobile phones carried to Vietnam across the border gates by the people entering the country

A report by IDC Vietnam market survey firm showed that though the mobile market witnessed a decline in the second quarter in comparison with the first quarter of 2012, it still obtained the two-digit growth rate of 10.9 percent over the same period of the last year.

The 10.9 percent growth rate has been described as “impressive” in the context of the big economic difficulties with very high inventory index.

The two high technology groups in the world Nokia and Samsung still hold the biggest market share in Vietnam. Nokia had led the market by the second quarter of the year with 50 percent of the mobile phones sold on Vietnam bearing Nokia brand. Meanwhile, Samsung keeps leading the smart phone market.

Dr Nguyen Minh Phong has warned that the overly high spending on luxurious imports would have negative impacts on the national economy. Vietnam ha been wasting money on non-essential goods, while a lot of businesses complain they cannot buy foreign currencies to make payment for the import materials needed for local production.

Le Khac

jackbl
26-10-2012, 09:01 AM
Offering fake gold, groom runs away from wedding ceremony
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VietNamNet Bridge – At around 10 am on October 2, a very rare incident happened at a wedding in Thanh My 2 Hamlet, Thanh Duc commune, Long Ho District, Vinh Long Province.

The incident took place on the morning of October 23 at the above address. The groom named Pham Hoang N., a resident of An Luong hamlet, Phu Duc commune, Long Ho District, went to the home of bride Nguyen Be T. in Thanh My 2 Village, Thanh Duc commune, Long Ho District, to bring her to his home. After the groom presented the bride some jewelry, the party began. While the party was very ebullient, the bride’s family found that the groom’s jewelry, including a pair of earrings, a necklace, a pair of wedding rings, and a bracelet are all fake gold.

At this time, the groom quickly left the party, leaving the master of wedding ceremony, who was also the representative of the groom’s family, named Nguyen Van Nam, at the bride’s home. Nam said he was just hired by the bridegroom to represent his family at the bride’s home.

Bride Nguyen Be T. said she and the groom had known each other for over 2 months. T. was completely ignorant of the groom and his family but she agreed to marry N.

Mrs. Pham Thi Diem Phan, mother of the bride, said: "Before the wedding, the groom’s adoptive parents came here to see us to discuss the wedding. My daughter agreed so we approved the wedding. However, on the wedding day we did not see the groom’s parents, only a man who called himself the groom family’s headman and several people, so we began suspecting."

According to Phan, suspicious signs were exposed when the groom presented gold jewelry to the bride: the jewelry was covered by a towel; the grooms presented the gold to the bride very promptly; and the offerings did not include VND 10 million ($500) of cash for the wedding party. After that, a bridesmaid named Tham detected that all the gold is fake.

The groom hurriedly left the wedding on a motorbike taxi, leaving his fake relatives at the bride’s home. The bride’s family immediately reported the case to the police and local authorities.

Mr. Pham Dang Khoa, chief of Thanh My 2 Village, said: "Mr. Quang’s (the bride’s father) family is poor. They do not have land for production so they earn their living by working as hired laborers. The bride is the 2nd child in the family. She works for a nearby coffee shop. This is the first time Mr. Quang’s family held a wedding for their child, so the ceremony was attended by many people."

According to neighbors, after the rare incident, the wedding was still underway until 8 pm. The bride was drunk so she could not see the police.

A neighbor, Ms. Nguyen Thi Nam, 75, said: "I’ve lived my whole life to see such a thrilling story like this. From the groom to his patriarch and wedding gold are all fake."

The real "groom" is a ... girl?

According to the local people, representatives of the groom’s family included only six people, including groom Pham Hoang N, the headman of the groom’s family Nguyen Van Nam and four others – three of them were lesbians.

When the truth was exposed, the groom ran away from the wedding. The groom’s family representative Nguyen Van Nam (a resident of Ward 4, Vinh Long city) claimed that he was hired to attend the wedding. He could not escape because he has an artificial leg. Others also fled from the wedding.

According to Mr. Pham Dang Khoa, chief of Thanh My 2 Village said the groom named Nghia was also rented. The real "groom" was a girl who accompanied the groom, named Pham HC, a homosexual.

The bride also admitted that she had known C. for more than two months, when she worked for a coffee shop in the city of Vinh Long.

The authorities are investigating this rare incident.

Compiled by M. Lan

Botarbolampar
26-10-2012, 09:18 AM
Bro jackbl, Interesting news about Vn, thanks. :D

vietboy
26-10-2012, 09:24 AM
Any bros got tips and guidance to share for going to vietnam? My 1st trip heading to hanoi. Are they using more on USD or Dong? Is it easy to get a taxi around, I hear that taxi are expensive over there? My TV cannot make it so do people there speaks english or chinese? Any bros able to assist and share some experience so that not only me but bros from this forum can gain some knowledge from here. Cheers! :)

Whether thaey use USD or Dong more, i believed its the same as HCMC. Anyway there is another thread on Hanoi u can go check it out and ask the bros there.
http://www.sammyboyforum.com/showthread.php?t=14273&page=304&highlight=hanoi
Enjoy yur trip. :)

vietboy
26-10-2012, 09:30 AM
I don't have bx lah. Just occasional drinker at joo chiat. The vbs there don't think I'm worth their effort to seduce cause 1 month I only go 1-2 times. Next the time I go again, the one sat with me before already go back.

1-2 times a month is better than me. I go once in a few months there to eat at the viet restaurants with my bx.
Isn't it good? Can sit Different girl each time u go.

forgotoldnick
26-10-2012, 02:35 PM
1-2 times a month is better than me. I go once in a few months there to eat at the viet restaurants with my bx.
Isn't it good? Can sit Different girl each time u go.

Jc which restaurant u n ur bx like? Long phung?

AdGuy
26-10-2012, 08:30 PM
Long Phung is an overated restaurant with poor service.

My girl and i banned that place liao

songsonglah
26-10-2012, 11:27 PM
Long Phung is an overated restaurant with poor service.

My girl and i banned that place liao

Then how about the one at Grandlink Square, just off Geylang? They've been there for long long time already.

vietboy
26-10-2012, 11:40 PM
Jc which restaurant u n ur bx like? Long phung?

Yes, LP but LP sometimes very crowded and have to queue up to wait for tables. So sometimes we go QG.

vietboy
26-10-2012, 11:41 PM
Long Phung is an overated restaurant with poor service.

My girl and i banned that place liao

Ya, their service is poor. Any other place to recommend? :)

AdGuy
26-10-2012, 11:41 PM
Then how about the one at Grandlink Square, just off Geylang? They've been there for long long time already.

Little Vietnam?

I like it there better... but that's just me

Ya, their service is poor. Any other place to recommend? :)

Personally I prefer 233 oppo sbox

STi-
26-10-2012, 11:43 PM
Whether thaey use USD or Dong more, i believed its the same as HCMC. Anyway there is another thread on Hanoi u can go check it out and ask the bros there.
http://www.sammyboyforum.com/showthread.php?t=14273&page=304&highlight=hanoi
Enjoy yur trip. :)

Bro Vietboy, thanks for the reply, will check out the thread. I'm just afraid that unable to communicate with the local there since i don't speak good TV. So in term of going around scare will tio tok.

vietboy
26-10-2012, 11:44 PM
Then how about the one at Grandlink Square, just off Geylang? They've been there for long long time already.

That one so-so only, I tried before their com suong, nothing to shout about and the portion a bit small. There's another one in GL, its near M51, at the other corner, forgot the name. That one is better.

vietboy
26-10-2012, 11:46 PM
Bro Vietboy, thanks for the reply, will check out the thread. I'm just afraid that unable to communicate with the local there since i don't speak good TV. So in term of going around scare will tio tok.

Speak good TV also no use, once they know u r a nuoc ngoai, still u will tio tok. :)

AdGuy
26-10-2012, 11:47 PM
Bro Vietboy, thanks for the reply, will check out the thread. I'm just afraid that unable to communicate with the local there since i don't speak good TV. So in term of going around scare will tio tok.

That's part of the experience :)

Alternatively, you can use my services :) haha

vietboy
26-10-2012, 11:47 PM
Personally I prefer 233 oppo sbox

Oh, always pass by there but never tried it before. Next time bring my bx there to try. Thanks!

AdGuy
26-10-2012, 11:49 PM
Oh, always pass by there but never tried it before. Next time bring my bx there to try. Thanks!

Let your bx try the food while you try the pub oppo :D

vietboy
26-10-2012, 11:53 PM
That's part of the experience :)

Alternatively, you can use my services :) haha

wa bro, website not bad sia.
bro STi, can give it a try. not expensive ma.

Bro AdGuy, help u advertise, next time I take got discount or not? hjhj :D

vietboy
26-10-2012, 11:54 PM
Let your bx try the food while you try the pub oppo :D

SBox? tried b4 liao but the other one next to it I never tried before. :D

STi-
27-10-2012, 12:21 AM
That's part of the experience :)

Alternatively, you can use my services :) haha

wa bro, website not bad sia.
bro STi, can give it a try. not expensive ma.

Bro AdGuy, help u advertise, next time I take got discount or not? hjhj :D

Bro AdGuy & vietboy, Thanks for the advise and help. Really appreciate it! Cheers!

songsonglah
27-10-2012, 01:50 AM
That one so-so only, I tried before their com suong, nothing to shout about and the portion a bit small. There's another one in GL, its near M51, at the other corner, forgot the name. That one is better.

You mean the coffee shop after 674 etc? Think is lorong 40?

Ya, there not bad. And got many ice cream to beo also. Do they still sell 小鸟 there?

songsonglah
27-10-2012, 01:53 AM
wa bro, website not bad sia.
bro STi, can give it a try. not expensive ma.

Bro AdGuy, help u advertise, next time I take got discount or not? hjhj :D

Bro AdGuy got provide "handjob" service?

Just kidding. I know what hjhj meant.

AdGuy, do you cover northern, southern or entire Vietnam? I've been to HCMC once many years back. Am looking to tour southern Viet. Probably 4-7 days. You have any website to see your package?

vietboy
27-10-2012, 02:24 AM
You mean the coffee shop after 674 etc? Think is lorong 40?

Ya, there not bad. And got many ice cream to beo also. Do they still sell 小鸟 there?

Yes, it is in lorong 40.
What 小鸟? They got sell this meh? I long time no go there liao.

vietboy
27-10-2012, 02:25 AM
Bro AdGuy got provide "handjob" service?

Just kidding. I know what hjhj meant.

AdGuy, do you cover northern, southern or entire Vietnam? I've been to HCMC once many years back. Am looking to tour southern Viet. Probably 4-7 days. You have any website to see your package?

Check out his signy. :)

jackbl
27-10-2012, 02:54 AM
Yes, it is in lorong 40.

People say what u always say Yes.... nvr check out the real facts. It's in Lorong 42!

songsonglah
27-10-2012, 04:03 AM
Yes, it is in lorong 40.
What 小鸟? They got sell this meh? I long time no go there liao.

Deep fried bird lor. When I first ate there in 2008, my Vietnamese girl ordered it and also spring roll. I thought the coffee shop helper was joking when he confirmed the order with me. I only realized its for real when he bring the deep fried birds. Anyway, it's very small size and taste like deep fried chicken wing.

This girl also introduced me to eating ech (sp?), tian ji. Brought me to a friends house and in the middle of the living room is one big pot of tian ji. Didn't dared to eat but didn't want to lose face.. Turns out its quite tasty.

This girl... Also gave me the first manicure experience.. Sigh...

jackbl
27-10-2012, 11:40 AM
This girl also introduced me to eating ech (sp?), tian ji. Brought me to a friends house and in the middle of the living room is one big pot of tian ji. Didn't dared to eat but didn't want to lose face.. Turns out its quite tasty.

Geylang also got a few places sell frog leg, eg Lor 3, 9, 11 and 19.....

jackbl
27-10-2012, 12:18 PM
High demand for forged degrees impulses degree forging industry development
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VietNamNet Bridge – Nursery school teachers, commune authorities’ officials and high ranking officials of the people’s procuracy have all been found as using forged degrees when applying for the posts.


An inspection tour to some Mekong Delta provinces recently by competent agencies has found out that forged degrees have been “favored” by a lot of local authorities’ officials. Especially, in Tien Giang and Long An provinces, where forged degrees and certificates were found in 100 percent of the cases inspected.

The My Tho City’s Police in Tien Giang province have come to a conclusion that Tran Thi Thu Trang, a Thoi Son nursery school teacher used a forged university degree when applying for a job at the school in January 2011.

Trang’s university degree then surprised many people, who believed that Trang never followed the university study. In the locality, Trang was well-known as a singer of the southern amateur music team that serves the tourists in the Thoi Son tourism resort.

The police have found out that Trang bought the forged university degree from a tourist at 20 million dong, and then applied for jobs with the degree.

The Cai Be district’s party committee has recently disciplined the five key officials of the My Trung commune’s authorities for their use of forged high school degrees. These included Nguyen Van Giup, Standing Deputy Secretary of the party committee; Tran Huu Phuoc, Head of the commune’s police; Le Hoang Rac, Chair of the Party Inspection Committee; and Le Van Thuong, deputy head of the police agency.

The Cho Gao District’s party committee has reprimanded Do Thanh Cong, Chair of the Cho Gao town people’s committee for his behavior of “showing off” the forged high school degree. Cong is now following the university education from a distance, but it’s still unclear what high school degree Cong submitted to enroll in the university training course.

The Long An provincial party committee has informed that Nguyen Thanh Tam, Deputy Head of the market management taskforce No. 4 “used the high school degree illegally.”

600 “problematic cases” found in one province

In 2003, more than 600 cases of officials using “problematic degrees” were found in an inspection campaign. These included a lot of officials who were on important positions. Many of them were then disciplined, but many others still have been getting promotions in their jobs.

In 2003, Lam Quang Gam was discovered as using a forged high school degree, but he was still on the position of Head of the Ca Mau provincial Taxation Agency for some more time. Later, he resigned from the post, but just after a short time, he has been appointed as the Chief Secretariat of the Ca Mau provincial people’s council and he has been holding the office since then.

Nguyen Thanh Men, former Secretary of the Ngoc Hien district’s party committee, did not spend any day to go to high school, but he was still awarded a high school degree when he was the leader of the district.

Men was only discovered as using forged degree when he was working as the Director of the Ca Mau provincial construction department. He has resigned from the post after his term finished, while he did not bear any kinds of punishment for using forged degree.

Not only district-level authorities officials, but high ranking provincial officials have been found as cheating people by using forged degrees.

Tran Kim Phe, former Chief Judge of the Cai Nuoc district court, was discovered as using forged high school degree, when she was following the in-service university training course. Phe’s friends and colleagues are now jealous of her when hearing that Phe has been appointed as the Head of the administration department of the Ca Mau provincial people’s council.

Thanh Mai

songsonglah
27-10-2012, 02:42 PM
Geylang also got a few places sell frog leg, eg Lor 3, 9, 11 and 19.....

Ok. Now I know.

What I trying to say is, I start cheonging in 2008. Before that, I don't go Geylang as I stay in woodlands. And married too. If we're to cheong late and take cab home, almost $30 plus. Too expensive. So better be guai kia stay at home.

Thanks for your guidance anyway.

vietboy
27-10-2012, 04:08 PM
People say what u always say Yes.... nvr check out the real facts. It's in Lorong 42!

42 meh? Aiya i long time no go GL so not famailar with that place liao, unlike u always prow GL/JC. :D:p

vietboy
27-10-2012, 04:16 PM
Geylang also got a few places sell frog leg, eg Lor 3, 9, 11 and 19.....

When comes to "ji" u know all by yur fingertips. :D:p

BTW, heard lor 3 is the best among them. Is it that case?

AdGuy
28-10-2012, 12:42 AM
Bro AdGuy got provide "handjob" service?

Just kidding. I know what hjhj meant.

AdGuy, do you cover northern, southern or entire Vietnam? I've been to HCMC once many years back. Am looking to tour southern Viet. Probably 4-7 days. You have any website to see your package?

Only girls get to see my package Hihi :D

Yes, we do all of Vn but it's fully customizable so we don't exactly have a 1 size fits all package. But if you should decide to come over, just PM me and we can discuss it in detail.

AdGuy
28-10-2012, 12:44 AM
wa bro, website not bad sia.
bro STi, can give it a try. not expensive ma.

Bro AdGuy, help u advertise, next time I take got discount or not? hjhj :D

You are not Vietboy without a reason I'm sure.

Dun think you need my services. :D

songsonglah
28-10-2012, 12:48 AM
Only girls get to see my package Hihi :D

Yes, we do all of Vn but it's fully customizable so we don't exactly have a 1 size fits all package. But if you should decide to come over, just PM me and we can discuss it in detail.

Thanks. Will drop you a pm when my schedule is arranged. Rather let bros here earn than to let those tour operators chop carrot.

jackbl
28-10-2012, 09:50 AM
Distinguish between rich and poor in public hospitals
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VietNamNet Bridge - In the same public hospital but there are two completely opposing world for wealthy and poor patients. It should be noted that many hospitals use public resources (doctors, nurses, machines, buildings, etc.) in private services in order to increase revenue, affecting the fairness in the approach to health care services of patients.


A hospital, two worlds

Patients of the center A have private rooms, with air conditioning and dedicated services. The price of each room is approximately VND2 million ($100) per day.

Next to center A is the oncology ward, where four child patients share a bed, accompanied by four mothers. As a result, the air in these rooms is always stuffy.



The Central Pediatrics Hospital in Hanoi has voluntary treatment centers at the level of A, B, and C, in which the voluntary treatment center A is the most outstanding. If patients come to the voluntary treatment centers B and C, they still have to wait (because the examination fee is only VND90,000 - $4.5) , while they will be served very quickly and at the best quality at the center A, where the examination fee is up to VND680,000 - $34.

The center A is established to meet the need of rich people, who can afford inpatient treatment cost of hundreds of USD per day but on one side it causes negative effects, of which the most prominent effect is that the poor can have a feeling of being discriminated.

While patients coming to the voluntary treatment center A are warmly welcome and the entire center is equipped with air-conditioner. Each patient is taken care by one nurse, has private room, etc., patients who use medical services at other zones have to queue for half of a day to wait for their turn.

Being tired, many patients sit, lie around the lobby to wait for their turn, making up a scene in stark contrast with the voluntary treatment center A, where patients are welcomed, treated very well.

For inpatient treatment, each poor patient has to share a bed with 2 or 3 or even 4 other patients.

"I know that my baby can catch diseases from other patients but we can not afford to use voluntary medical services. Sometimes a ten square meter room hosts nearly two dozen people," said the mother of a 7-year-old patient, who is being treated for cancer at the oncology ward.



More money, more choice

Without paying more money, patients must wait months to get surgery. But with the "fast operation" service, they will have to wait for 10 days. This situation currently happens at Viet Duc Hospital (Hanoi).

This service exists under the name of "quick surgical services." Accordingly, if patients pay an additional VND2 million ($100) (out of hospital fees in accordance with regulations,) the waiting time for surgery will be reduced significantly.

Because of overload, hospitals have to wait for a month to get surgery, but thanks to this new service, people who have money just have to wait for 7-10 days.

In the Bach Mai hospital, Hanoi, at the voluntary medical examination ward, the distinction is also clear: The examination fee is VND50,000/ time and it is VND100,000 if patients want to see professors.

It is similar at the Hanoi Medical University Hospital, where there is a very clear distinction between the normal medical sector and the international examination ward.

According to Mr. Ly Ngoc Kinh, Deputy Chairman of the Vietnam Association of Health Economic Science, the opening of the medical service sector has contributed to significant improvement of hospital revenues, reduce budget pressures, and meet the needs of the patients who can afford to pay.

The policy is right, but there are many things to discuss about the implementation of this policy.

Ngoc Anh

jackbl
28-10-2012, 12:36 PM
熟食中心变“夜总会”,啤酒妹变陪酒女,每晚吸引百多名男酒客,10多名性感啤酒女殷勤倒酒按摩,甚至主动 邀约开房,引起公众不满炮轰。

一名男读者向《新明日报》投诉,他最近到史密斯街的牛车水大厦二楼熟食中心用餐时,被一名艳丽的越南女郎搭 讪,直接问他要不要开房,服务费100元。

他说,当时才发现原来熟食中心内有不少艳女在陪酒,她们坐在酒客身旁陪聊天,为酒客倒酒、按摩,赚取10元 至20元的小费,大胆行径令人咋舌。

“不仅如此,有时她们会直接坐在酒客大腿上,任由酒客上下其手!”

熟食摊主:虽有损形象不影响生意;逢周末“旺日”陪酒女涌现。

vietboy
28-10-2012, 03:07 PM
You are not Vietboy without a reason I'm sure.

Dun think you need my services. :D

That is just nick, i also dun know why i put that nick in the 1st place. :D

There are still lots of places i have not been to.

ilovedoggie
28-10-2012, 06:54 PM
You are not Vietboy without a reason I'm sure.

Dun think you need my services. :D

me and a bunch of ttn-until-wan-explode mates wd like to go for a sex tour in hcmc. we wd like to go places like bj house bbbj house fj house moto girl area msg-cum-fj house... adguy wan to lead us?:D

AdGuy
28-10-2012, 10:23 PM
me and a bunch of ttn-until-wan-explode mates wd like to go for a sex tour in hcmc. we wd like to go places like bj house bbbj house fj house moto girl area msg-cum-fj house... adguy wan to lead us?:D

When are you guys going?

jackbl
29-10-2012, 08:56 AM
Money lost in translation
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VietNamNet Bridge – The demand for Vietnamese language versions of foreign titles is growing rapidly among young readers.

However, cumbersome procedures in the publication sector have raised prices of such books, making it difficult for the youth, especially students, to buy them. For instance, there is considerable interest in Tai Chinh Quoc Te, the Vietnamese language version of Jeff Madura's International Financial Management which has been advertised widely in colleges and universities around HCM City.

"The book is necessary for us students. It contains interesting facts about international finance and the global financial crisis.

"But it's very expensive at VND460,000 (US$22), " said Nguyen Truc Giang, a third-year-student of HCM City's Economics College.

International Financial Management was translated into Vietnamese by a group of teachers of the economics and law universities in HCM City.

The translation was sent to Singapore for printing and the Vietnamese edition imported into Viet Nam for distribution.
The book is distributed by Fahasa, the city's Book Distribution Company at its bookstores around the country.

Tai Chinh Quoc Te is just one of many Vietnamese editions of foreign books that readers have to buy at high prices.
"Export and import fees have raised the prices of Vietnamese language versions," said Le Van Tron, president of HCM City's Printing Association.

He said printing technologies in Viet Nam were not inferior to other countries in the region, but "cumbersome regulations in printing publications have limited the chance of co-operation between domestic and foreign companies".

According to Minh Phuong, an official of the city's Information and Telecommunications Department, only three domestic printing companies in HCM City have applied for licences to print foreign publications this year.

"Publishers can buy copyrights of foreign books, translate them into Vietnamese and print the books in Viet Nam. Even then, the book will be expensive because of copyright fees," said Pham Minh Thuan, Fahasa director.

"Prices can be lowered if foreign companies sign contracts with a domestic business to print the Vietnamese version of a book in Viet Nam and is authorised to sell it in the local market," Thuan said.

The Publication Law, which is now being amended, stipulates that 100 per cent of publications that a domestic business prints under contracts signed with a foreign company must be exported.

However, stiff regulations have hindered foreign companies from signing contracts with domestic companies to print publications in Viet Nam, according to representatives of publication agencies at a recent meeting in HCM City.

VietNamNet/VNS