Re: FL1 - raw
 

The irony is that I've gone raw with FLs, legal Geylang girls, and massage girls before in the past. Never caught anything from any of them. And I regularly test too.

Get ONE maid/au pair FWB who's mixed blood North Indian... and caught something from her. Lucky it's easily cured and no long term effects.

So in a way if you think about it, it's far riskier to go raw with non-commercial hookup ONS/FWB girls than with girls who do sex for cash.

Re: FL1 - raw
 

You mean this? Double teamed.


https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/3318/y9VTQg.gif

Re: FL1 - raw
 

No raw no war!!

Errr you see all the other people here compare to me I become very mild liao.

I generally don't plan for raw. But when it happens...well, i usually won't say no.

Re: FL1 - raw
 

sure gotlah, but you must be their regular and pamper them with some gift first

Re: FL1 - raw
 

This?
https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/6526/qnmYhz.gif

Re: FL1 - raw
 

i'm new to this FL thingy. Is it common to have raw sex ??? i mean currently I'm looking at a few local FLs, some OKT claim their ladies to be cabin crew, students, event models... haha.. not sure real or fake.

BUT half way u pull out the condom she also wun really notice.. but is it true raw sex with FLs is common har?

A bit scared leh..wait kana STDS jialat, HIV whole life gone..

Any bros here kana HIV from raw with FLs before?

Re: FL1 - raw
 

If what you posted in 2013 is true,

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img924/3667/6FXkZE.jpg

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/2307/eBkC4o.jpg

You have been knowingly spreading HIV since 2013, and continues to do so. :eek:

Re: FL1 - raw
 

That's why i say BEWARE of some bros here PROMOTING RAW.. why? becos they kana HIVs liao, now they want to sabotage as many guys as possible to "encourage" raw and want more guys to kana HIVs as sort of revenge act.

Re: FL1 - raw
 

Threat of contracting STDs are very real wherever you have commercial sex. Small inconvenience of putting on a condom can save a lot of trouble in the future.

Bros who enjoy raw, please do this after understanding the risk. Please also share the WLs that allow raw so other bros can avoid them.

Re: FL1 - raw
 

Use your big head when it is thinking straight hahah... maybe you have 3 FLs you regularly raw, and they have 10 customers they regularly raw... and those 10 customers have 3 FLs they regularly raw and repeat... so you are actually rawing a few dozen people hahaha...

It is not if but when you get an STD or HIV sooner or later but no judgement, to each his own!

Re: FL1 - raw
 

Playing the Devil's Advocate here - I think this may be useful. Your points are interesting, but I find them a little illogical and rather alarmist

If you actually know something about HIV and it's general progression to AIDS and you take a look at the timelines posted, the user @punt may well have started AntiRetroviral Therapy (ART) since 2013 and may have responded very well to it. In certain instances this results in a viral load that is so low that the HIV-positive person cannot pass on the virus to the girl, even if they fuck raw.

If the user @punt has not been responding well to ART, and it has been 9 years now since he was last diagnosed as HIV positive, then chances are he would have had contracted full-blown AIDS by now and won't have much time left. AIDS sufferers also tend to suffer from skin cancers like kaposi sarcoma, and it is a really scary sight to behold having angry red lesions all over your body - I do not think any girl is he is gonna fuck him raw once she sees that

Re: FL1 - raw
 

Just curious.. anyone that has HIV and is under medication and is controlled
means he can fuck raw?

So let say u about to fuck a gal and then the gal confesses that she is HIV carrier but now on medication and is well controlled, would u go ahead and fuck her raw?

Then why is it an offence if u are hiv positive and u do not inform ur sex partner that u are HIV positive? No need to inform right since u say HIV carrier can fuck raw if medicine keeping it under control??

just curious especially would u fuck a HIV infected gal but well under control with medication raw?

Quote: In Singapore, section 23(3) of the Infectious Diseases Act (IDA) criminalises the failure of PLHIV to disclose the risk of HIV transmission to their sexual partners before engaging in sexual activity, which attracts up to 10 years' imprisonment and a maximum fine of SGD$50,000.29 Oct 2019

So user @punt by fucking raw with FLs and not declaring he is HIV positive can be sentence to jail max 10 years if someone makes a police report now.

Re: FL1 - raw
 

You need to chill, bro - for a free, 3 year old account you have lots of angst.

The devil is always in the details - and relates to how well @punt knows which stage of suppression that he is in. Studies typically point to an 75% efficacy rate (Google - Antiretroviral Therapy Effectiveness), meaning that in these 75% of the HIV positive cases they have no way of transmitting the virus to their partners, because their viral loads have gone down to undetectable levels

I leave you to decide what the answers would be to your other hypothetical questions. Maybe you can think of a scenario, if you were HIV positive yourself (maybe you are - but you don't know it?) and you are in his situation then what would you do?

Learn to give the benefit of the doubt, bro. Life is too short to be spent so angry like that.

Quoting the law without understanding the context, is something that half-intelligent people do.

That's why it is said, that a little knowledge is a dangerous thing.

Re: FL1 - raw
 

just remember to use ur big head to control ur small head cheonging.

when tempted by a very very chio bu saying she want raw, then tell her u dun wan raw and she said dun raw cannot fuck her then she keep seducing u to fuck her raw, the only thing to do is straight away stop the deal, dun look at her again n walk away. if u keep looking at her then it will have the chance that ur small head take control ur big head.. then after that regret.

think i share my experience before in other thread that there is this FL when petting with me, slowly climb on top me and at some point trying to insert my cock (not wearing cap yet) into her pussy. i noticed that n immediately stop her. why she wan raw i dun know but i dun think she can't be so high that she dun know i have not wear the cap yet.

Re: FL1 - raw
 

Best advice :)

Re: FL1 - raw
 

Wish to check let’s say halfway though the action, the cap slide out and went into lady pussy. By the time if we notice also too late correct? Even it’s is just few mins of raw action? 😢

Re: FL1 - raw
 

https://samsforum.com/showthread.php?t=879165

Re: FL1 - raw
 

PLEASE DONT GO FOR RAW, YOU WILL REGRET IT FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE IF U KENA

Re: FL1 - raw
 

Btw bros, is it rude to ask FL or MLs if they are “clean” though. I mean, can better gauge from their reaction after that, am I right? (I am still evergreen in this area - just really curious)

Re: FL1 - raw
 

On the raw topic, I wonder why some bros like to paint a WL.. it's not like we have a condom for tongues to do it safely.

Re: FL1 - raw
 

Tongue condoms exist. They are also called dental dams.

I love painting, I don't think WLs are any "dirtier" than a "normal non-working girl".

Re: FL1 - raw
 

ya i also wonder... maybe some guy just cum inside her raw then she wipes with tissue paper then the next guy's turn and then imagine the next guy paint her is like the previous guy cum in month into the next guy

Re: FL1 - raw
 

there are a few commandos in this forum :) always fuck commercial sex workers RAW .. Dun know why they value raw over their lives.

BUT I have to say, they are really brave but at the same time inconsiderate if they have gf or wife. If they kana HIV or STDs then pass to their gf or wife then both suffer

Re: FL1 - raw
 

Some WLs dun wash one after servicing previous customer. Like KTVs, gals butterfly around. So if one guy previously paint or even fuck her raw and she will just wipe off with tissue then comes to u let u paint..

err....... normal non working girl less potential of her "servicing" another guy and no washing before she service u

BUT hey.. haha.. if u like to paint no matter what .. then is ur choice, u song can liao...

Re: FL1 - raw
 

U shd ask in the "sexual health section". There is a Doctor Tan? a real doctor inside.. can ask him

https://samsforum.com/showthread.php?t=903882 ==> this sexual health thread example

That's pretty interesting, learnt something new. But then again, the thought of WL servicing a guy before the next person paints is a bit too overwhelming for me.

To each his own on this ya.

Re: FL1 - raw
 

I think reality is probably the reverse of what you think.

All the WLs I know are quite fastidious about washing in between customers. After all, if you do 10+ customers a day, you don't want 10 different types of saliva anywhere on or in your body at the end of the day. Ladies are generally hygienic creatures, especially if their longevity in the "job" requires them to be clean.

You can be pretty sure the poor guy who smells the previous guy's saliva on her pussy, will scream like hell and run out - and soon enough everyone will know that she doesn't wash ion between jobs. If you have personally experienced something like that, then I say you either MMF/GB/Swing regularly, or you need to upgrade your the kind of WLs you usually frequent.

Normal girls, on the other hand have this thing about carrying her fav FWB's in her pussy as she goes about her day.....and if she happens to be married and the husband pulls her aside for a quickie....lol.....similarly, guys who are fucking a married woman like to CIP then ask her not to wash just so that they have the mental pleasure of thinking that the hubby/bf paints and fucks a pussy that is still fresh swimming in their cum.

Re: FL1 - raw
 

interesting bro. i am a painter too but i never dare tried on FL and geylang WL before, only once i cannot control myself on a geylang WL called Apple. She was a super ang pai many years back and i cant resist eating the fuji apple then (she was a half mixed japanese or something). but after that, i was feeling disgusted thinking of dunno how many cocks went into that hole before me that day.

then there is one other girl at world spa. again lust took over and i eat her out. She tasted so sweet and moan so good that she became my regular painting target and the only ML that i do so. somehow the atas and more ex environment of world spa gave me a false impression that it is cleaner

but when it comes to the ktv girls, it is a standard ritual. somehow as long as i know there isnt a cock in and out that hole right before me, i can eat to my content. But some pussies do smell bad, a total turnoff for me. It might affect my mood for the fuck after that. hate the ccb hahahaha

Re: FL1 - raw
 

One of my schoolmate always love to go raw with domestic helpers.

Asked him why he dunn wear protection. He said no feelings. KNN. Whenever we have meals or exercise together, we always keep a distance from him.