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LOTR 18-07-2003 07:51 PM

Option on this matter.....
 
I m a regular cust of one of the Hse in L18. Just found out that the gals boss always take their earnings after their work. Is there solution from stopping the boss to take their earnigs other than going to the police. Some of them just start workin recently and they don't have any saving cuz other boss take their money. Sometime they also don't have enough to eat. THIS IS NO FUCKING JOKE.:mad: Anyway, i am a very old samster using a new ID.

LOTR 18-07-2003 07:53 PM

Don't ask me which is the Hse cuz i won't say anything. Maybe next week you guys will know cuz one of the Hse in L18 is going to closed down soon........

Jailbyrd 18-07-2003 09:31 PM

bro lotr, i understand how you feel man.. sucks when you hear about shit like this going on.. can't really say anything nor offer much help though, sorry..

factor-x 18-07-2003 10:01 PM

boss take their earnings?

maybe boss give em on monthly basis, cause knowing these girls, they'll probably anyhow spend on shopping if they take it on a daily basis.

some bosses "keep-sake" the girls' money for em and give them when a year or so is up. this is a method practised by them to make the girl honour their contract even when the going's tough. go back early and forgo your money.

they can voice out to Anti-Vice during their "coffee-sessions" with them.

KID278 20-07-2003 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by LOTR
Don't ask me which is the Hse cuz i won't say anything. Maybe next week you guys will know cuz one of the Hse in L18 is going to closed down soon........
I dont suppose you're burning that house down or you had made a complaint for them....:D

Cheers.
Kid278.

bradpitt968 20-07-2003 09:33 AM

Re: Option on this matter.....
 
Quote:

Originally posted by LOTR
I m a regular cust of one of the Hse in L18. Just found out that the gals boss always take their earnings after their work. Is there solution from stopping the boss to take their earnigs other than going to the police. Some of them just start workin recently and they don't have any saving cuz other boss take their money. Sometime they also don't have enough to eat. THIS IS NO FUCKING JOKE.:mad: Anyway, i am a very old samster using a new ID.
Hmm... that's bad... maybe u could bring it up to the MP during the Meet-the-pple session??

Just kidding... = ) LOL!!

TheUnforgiven 20-07-2003 02:46 PM

One of my old regulars once told me her OKT shortchange her on one or two sessions everyday. At first, she thought it was her mistake and she decided to count towels. Sure enough, she was always paid one or two sessions less for what she worked for. I asked her if going to the anti-vice was a good idea but she pleaded me not to do so. Does anyone know specifically what can be done about these errant OKTs?

factor-x 20-07-2003 02:55 PM

AV has sessions with them to discuss such matters.

If they refuses to voice out to their only "workers' union" and "watchers" of their bosses, can't think of any other productive ways to curb this malicious behaviour of these OKTs.

But living under someone else's roof, turning the tables on them isn't a very pleasant thing to do and may in fact worsen the situation.

Tough.

Screwed-up society once again.

Jailbyrd 20-07-2003 05:21 PM

what bro factor-x said is right.. from our standpoint, quite simple and straightforward, albeit rash, complain to AV lor.. but for them, things are a lot more complicated.. considering the fact that they live under that OKT's roof, getting him in trouble isn't gonna improve the situation much.. like what bro factor-x said, it'll probably worsen things.. should any of us decide to be hero and go complain, bear in mind we're not really doing them a favor.. their only real and sensible option is to talk things through with the OKT themselves, but even then it is still no guarantee of things working out.. gotta sympathize with them man, completely helpless.. hai..

siamcutey 20-07-2003 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheUnforgiven
One of my old regulars once told me her OKT shortchange her on one or two sessions everyday. At first, she thought it was her mistake and she decided to count towels. Sure enough, she was always paid one or two sessions less for what she worked for. I asked her if going to the anti-vice was a good idea but she pleaded me not to do so. Does anyone know specifically what can be done about these errant OKTs?
How can they be shortchanged when the GL girls themselves sign the log book after each customer left?

Probably the Girl might be lying to get some sympathy and maybe some tips.

hahaha
SC

XiaoHoUzi83 20-07-2003 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by siamcutey
How can they be shortchanged when the GL girls themselves sign the log book after each customer left?

Probably the Girl might be lying to get some sympathy and maybe some tips.

hahaha
SC

rather agree with bro siamcutey...
she might be pulling a fast one on u...
Cos this type of matter tell u also no use...
what she expects u to do?

if she is really serious abt getting the money back then should talk to the AV...
really no point telling us customers... the MAX MAX MAX we could do is give a little tips... temp only....
as there is a saying .. it only "Zhi(4) Biao(1) Bu(4) Zhi(4) ben(3)"

Jailbyrd 20-07-2003 10:34 PM

we never know though.. there's always the possibility that they're taking us for a ride with their stories, but then again, maybe they're just looking for an listening ear.. i'll give them the benefit of the doubt lah, but i won't do anything.. this way, don't have to feel bad for doubting her if it turns out to be true, don't have to risk getting fooled if it turns out to be false.. haha..

TheUnforgiven 20-07-2003 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by siamcutey
How can they be shortchanged when the GL girls themselves sign the log book after each customer left?

Probably the Girl might be lying to get some sympathy and maybe some tips.

hahaha
SC

SC, whether my case is true or false, i don't bother to probe since I have dumped her a long way back. the fact is, such things have happened before, whether it was mentioned in the forum or told to me by the bfs of those working in GL houses. no smoke without fire right?

tips? i don't think so, she knows i'm a cheap charlie. haha

bradpitt968 21-07-2003 07:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheUnforgiven
One of my old regulars once told me her OKT shortchange her on one or two sessions everyday. At first, she thought it was her mistake and she decided to count towels. Sure enough, she was always paid one or two sessions less for what she worked for. I asked her if going to the anti-vice was a good idea but she pleaded me not to do so. Does anyone know specifically what can be done about these errant OKTs?
This is like our army days... if u kana "marked" by the CSM or whoever.... it's always best if u could settle with that person directly... face to face.... would complaining to OC or CO helps?

You tell me....

bradpitt968 21-07-2003 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by siamcutey
How can they be shortchanged when the GL girls themselves sign the log book after each customer left?

Probably the Girl might be lying to get some sympathy and maybe some tips.

hahaha
SC

U like that say also sound reasonable... think we should just play along lah....

LOTR 21-07-2003 04:32 PM

Its True.
 
Maybe i should told u guys which hse i m talking about so u all will believe me or if anyone is going GL today, just drop by L18 and see which hse got only two to three gals working today. Now its getting worst. Their boss don't allow them to switch on their light, aircon and fan also. They are also not allow to go out so that they can't go to Anti-Vice. BTW Bro factor-x, the girls are paid daily after their work. Somemore their boss not only take theirs earning for the pass one week also that he owe all the girls money. My regulars in that hse complain to me that he had owe them a total of $4000-$10000 each and loan sharks always come to the hse to take money. Maybe if anybody at Anti-Vice see this, please help those girls.

BTW, the girls have complain to their two OKTs before for a lot of times but what they did is only scold the boss. The OKTs also told the girls go to Anti-Vice or stop working which they can't do anything if the boss take the money like this since the hse is under his name.

factor-x 21-07-2003 10:15 PM

Re: Its True.
 
Quote:

Originally posted by LOTR
Maybe i should told u guys which hse i m talking about so u all will believe me or if anyone is going GL today, just drop by L18 and see which hse got only two to three gals working today. Now its getting worst. Their boss don't allow them to switch on their light, aircon and fan also. They are also not allow to go out so that they can't go to Anti-Vice. BTW Bro factor-x, the girls are paid daily after their work. Somemore their boss not only take theirs earning for the pass one week also that he owe all the girls money. My regulars in that hse complain to me that he had owe them a total of $4000-$10000 each and loan sharks always come to the hse to take money. Maybe if anybody at Anti-Vice see this, please help those girls.

BTW, the girls have complain to their two OKTs before for a lot of times but what they did is only scold the boss. The OKTs also told the girls go to Anti-Vice or stop working which they can't do anything if the boss take the money like this since the hse is under his name.

No light/aircon/fan how to work?

It's true every house have their own set of problems, it's up to the management to resolve this with the girls involved.

Whether the girls are paid daily is subjective to the boss's agreement with the girls / management style of the house.

They have to go out when their medical check-up is due. And these sometimes comes along with a AV visits/interviews.

If you are unhappy with the management style in a complex kind of service industry, might want to consider paying the Superintendent of Specialised Crime Division/CID a visit.

391 New Bridge Road
CID Tower, Block C
Police Cantonment Complex

=)

-have yet to see a house w/out problems-

TheUnforgiven 21-07-2003 10:49 PM

Have heard one or two things from the GL grapevine today. I now know what house LOTR is referring to. Apparently, this source is reliable and what LOTR says is true. Anyway, this isn't the first time I heard things about this house. I have been asked to keep my mouth shut until this house closes down. Or if it turns out to be bullshit, I can give that fella who provided me this info a verbal fucking.

Direngrey 22-07-2003 10:37 AM

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LOTR 22-07-2003 10:43 AM

The girls was threaten to work yesterday. Their boss told them that he will not allow them to go out, no HP, no talking to friends after work time. If anybody go to L18 around 5 - 6pm yesterday and went inside the hse, they could see the boss banging on their doors and told them to open the door or else they will have trouble. He also told them that he will keep their passport not allow them to go home or go out and change the lock of the main door. That why most of the girls were scare and started to cry. If anyone been chionging GL long enough will know which Hse i am talking about since the boss was well known for his GAMBLE HABIT.

Btw, if half of the girls made a complain to the AV officer, could they allow to change Hse.

Anyway, the boss told them to wait until next month so he can pay them back the money. Just to help them to keep the finger cross now.....

KID278 22-07-2003 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by LOTR
The girls was threaten to work yesterday. Their boss told them that he will not allow them to go out, no HP, no talking to friends after work time. If anybody go to L18 around 5 - 6pm yesterday and went inside the hse, they could see the boss banging on their doors and told them to open the door or else they will have trouble. He also told them that he will keep their passport not allow them to go home or go out and change the lock of the main door. That why most of the girls were scare and started to cry. If anyone been chionging GL long enough will know which Hse i am talking about since the boss was well known for his GAMBLE HABIT.

Btw, if half of the girls made a complain to the AV officer, could they allow to change Hse.

Anyway, the boss told them to wait until next month so he can pay them back the money. Just to help them to keep the finger cross now.....

Brudder, the last resort to their plight, an open option is to contact their embassy to approach av but things will get messy and they might risk being sent back.

Cheers.
Kid278.

LOTR 22-07-2003 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KID278
Brudder, the last resort to their plight, an open option is to contact their embassy to approach av but things will get messy and they might risk being sent back.

Cheers.
Kid278.

That's why only half of the gals willing to go to the AV.:mad: The others decided to stay and wait. :(

Piranas 22-07-2003 06:33 PM

L18 huh? Is the OKT thin thin one, always say customer is Andy Lau if he view too long? :mad:

LOTR 22-07-2003 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Piranas
L18 huh? Is the OKT thin thin one, always say customer is Andy Lau if he view too long? :mad:
Most of the OKTs are thin thin one but of the Andy Lau part, i don't think he say that. The OKTs in that hse are very good and allow the cust to sit inside the hse for a long time before making their choice.:)

KID278 22-07-2003 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by LOTR
That's why only half of the gals willing to go to the AV. The others decided to stay and wait.
Wait for what.....if you are saying half of the gals willing then what's the problem...to my knowledge more than two complaints should be good enough to warrant an av investigation...:p

Cheers.
Kid278.

LOTR 22-07-2003 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KID278
Wait for what.....if you are saying half of the gals willing then what's the problem...to my knowledge more than two complaints should be good enough to warrant an av investigation...:p

Cheers.
Kid278.

The other gals told those who wants to go to AV to wait and see. Not much chioce since all of them are living under the same roof and some of their best friend won't go and started to find trouble for them if they go. :(

But if the AV officers go to that hse, they will bring it out.
That's why i post this thread just to get the AV officers attention and have a look at that hse. They should known which hse i am talking about since this is not the first time.

KID278 22-07-2003 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by LOTR
The other gals told those who wants to go to AV to wait and see. Not much chioce since all of them are living under the same roof and some of their best friend won't go and started to find trouble for them if they go. :(

But if the AV officers go to that hse, they will bring it out.
That's why i post this thread just to get the AV officers attention and have a look at that hse. They should known which hse i am talking about since this is not the first time.

Dont be silly, av will hardly act on outside complaints let alone what's being mentioned here....nobody can help those gals if they dont even want to help themselves...:p

Cheers.
kid278.

Jailbyrd 22-07-2003 09:31 PM

aiyah.. it's real saddening to hear about such stuff, the predicament that they're in.. as it is, it's bad enough that they gotta leave their homes to come here and work as prostitutes (despite the fact that i patronise them, i can't help but feel their sorrow), come here liao still gotta face such shit.. hai..

TheUnforgiven 22-07-2003 09:52 PM

LOTR, i suggest you go to the AV straight. I believe you have the appropriate means to find out how to get that house closed down instead of waiting for the girls to sneak out.

LOTR 22-07-2003 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheUnforgiven
LOTR, i suggest you go to the AV straight. I believe you have the appropriate means to find out how to get that house closed down instead of waiting for the girls to sneak out.
Ya. Maybe i could do that. But still, i don't want to find any trouble for my regulars and their friends as some of the OKTs in GL knows what i am talking about since they know about this website and one of them told me straight away about the things happen in that hse now and before.

But come to think of it, the gals come to Singapore to work so hard just to get a better life when go back home and their boss do this type of stuff to them. Some of them told me not to tell anyone about the things happen in that hse since they are also scare that i could be in trouble cuz the real boos of that hse is quite a 'powerful' guy in GL.


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