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And the state media been working over time too . And all these just over because of a property and the will of LKY . Don't they have any more respect left for him ?
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The greatest mystery this coming 50 yrs is who is the one that insert the 7 will? Court case is waste of tax payers $.
And we already know how the court will decide .
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And the state media been working over time too . And all these just over because of a property and the will of LKY . Don't they have any more respect left for him ?
Agreed with this statement... so what is a will for anyway even for ppl like LKY?
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Ah Gong was thinking why need to do a will ? If people can even question about it ?
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PM Lee is getting his Ministers to insult Lee Kuan Yew claims Hsien Yang

June 24, 2017



Lee Kuan Yew’s younger son has again taken to Facebook to say that “Lee Hsien Loong is now getting his ministers to repeat his insinuations that Lee Kuan Yew did not understand his own will.”

He added that PM Lee’s Ministers are arguing that Lee Kuan Yew, a Cambridge-educated lawyer and sitting MP, signed his own will without knowing what was in it.

Mr Lee took offence that they are claiming that he initialed beneath the demolition clause, without understanding what it meant in plain English.

“This is an insult to a great man,” Mr Lee said.

Mr Lee’s comments came after Senior Minister of State Indranee Rajah said in a Facebook post that under Singapore’s law, the lawyer drafting a will is required to be independent. If the lawyer has an interest in the will, the lawyer must make sure the person making the will gets independent advice, she said.

In her post, Ms Rajah also pointed to a Facebook post by Mr Lee on June 17 which claimed his father gave “express instructions” that his final will made in 2013 will be a reversion to his first one of 2011.

“On the basis of this instruction, we took what we understood to be the final version of the 2011 will, without realising that a gift over clause had been in the executed version of the 2011 will,” Mr Lee said.

Ms Rajah pointed out that Mr Lee has not specified who “we” referred to in his post and said, “if the lawyer referred to in ‘we’ is Mrs Lee Suet Fern (Mr Lee Hsien Yang’s wife), then certain questions will arise.”

Mr Lee asserted in his latest Facebook post that the 2013 will was no more than a reversion to the 2011 will on Lee Kuan Yew’s instructions.

“Probate has been granted on Lee Kuan Yew’s will, so it is final and legally binding,” he said.


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Lee Hsien Yang: Don’t insult my father by saying he didn’t know what went into his last will

June 24, 2017

In response to Indranee Rajah's post suggesting Lee Kuan Yew had five minutes to absorb contents of last will.


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Senior Minister of State Indranee Rajah, who is a Tanjong Pagar GRC MP, the late Lee Kuan Yew’s former running mate and senior counsel, has up the ante.

In a Facebook post on Saturday night, June 24, she asked some serious questions pertaining to who was the lawyer who prepared Lee Kuan Yew’s last will, highlighting the very real issue of a conflict of interests that could point to the heart of the Lee family feud.

This is her post:

In a rehash of a previously mentioned talking point, Indranee wrote that this was so as the only two lawyers that have been narrowed down who could have drafted the Last Will are:

– Kwa Kim Li, who is the cousin of Lee Hsien Loong, Lee Hsien Yang and Lee Wei Ling

– Lee Suet Fern, who is the wife of Lee Hsien Yang

The circumstances surrounding the crafting and signing of Lee Kuan Yew’s last will has since come under intense scrutiny.

So far, Kwa has categorically denied it was her. Lee Suet Fern has not spoken up on this issue.

In Indranee’s post, it was suggested that Lee Kuan Yew had only five minutes to absorb the contents of his final will before signing off on it.


– the next day on 17 Dec at 11.05 am 2 lawyers from Stamford Law arrived at 38 Oxley Road. They stayed for 15 minutes, logging out at 11.20 am – this presumably would include the time it would take too get from the guardhouse to Mr Lee’s room in the house and back. Mr Lee Hsien Yang in his FB post says that the Will was signed at 11.10 am. Assuming it took 5 minutes to get from the gate to Mr Lee’s room, and another 5 minutes to get back to the gate, this would mean Mr Lee had only 5 minutes to read and sign the 7th Will.

So the questions are:

– did he have enough time to read through and absorb the contents of the 7th Will?

– could he have done so in just 5 minutes?

– was he aware that the Demolition Clause had been reinserted? The emails of the previous day did not mention the Demolition Clause.

In direct response to Indranee’s post, Lee Hsien Yang has hit back within a span of a few hours, saying it is an insult to suggest Lee Kuan Yew, a top notch lawyer, was unaware of what went into his own will.


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The Lee saga: Long hard truth

Sense And Nonsense - by Tan Bah Bah

June 25, 2017



All the signs point to a long-drawn titanic struggle between the Lee siblings over 38 Oxley Road. The forthcoming July 3 Parliamentary sitting on the issue will take place without the presence of two of the main combatants – Lee Hsien Yang and Lee Wei Ling – and can only serve to present Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong’s clarifications about his role and the government’s attempt to explain its position and involvement. Nothing more.

In the leadup to July 3, LHY and LWL are not conceding an inch and I do not see either relenting in their attacks on their brother, sister-in-law Ho Ching and their supporters beyond the date. They have refuted every public statement made by LHL’s or the government’s side.

Examples: LWL alleged that the existence of the committee to look into options for 38, Oxley Road was disclosed only when forced – and this only after one year – despite many requests for the names of the committee from the estate of the late Lee Kuan Yew. Both DPMs Teo Chee Hean and Tharman Shanmugaratnam have said the existence of the committee was no secret.

Next, LHL accused Ho Ching of “theft and intermeddling” when she took away items belonging to LKY. He was pointing out that his sister-in-law had no right to do so. To him, it was irrelevant whatever the purpose of the removal, even though LHL’s spouse had tried to justify the good intentions behind her act. Not accepted by LHL, evidently.

Another example of the younger Lee siblings’ refusal to budge was in LHL’s angry retort – in response to Senior Minister of Law Indranee Rajah’s Facebook postings on the drafting of LKY’s will. He took issue with LHL’s using of ministers repeatedly to insinuate that the late first PM did not understand his own will.

He said PM Lee’s ministers were arguing that Lee Kuan Yew, a Cambridge-educated lawyer and sitting MP, signed his own will without knowing what was in it. LHL took offence that they were claiming that he initialed beneath the demolition clause, without understanding what it meant in plain English.

“This is an insult to a great man,” LHL said.

“Probate has been granted on Lee Kuan Yew’s will, so it is final and legally binding,” he said. The proper place for his brother to challenge his father’s will was in court.

We now have a situation where LHL has to defend himself in Parliament – against attacks on his integrity and allegations of abuse of power and explain his dilemma in dealing with not just his father’s house but also his siblings. He is wearing a number of hats – as PM, as the eldest son of LKY and as an elder brother. As PM, he is obliged and duty-bound to act in the larger interests of the nation and that well be in conflict with his other roles as son and sibling. It is a kind of a Hobson’s choice – the more he stands on the side of government and argues the case against late father’s wishes to preserve the house, the more he will be seen by his siblings to have betrayed LKY and, as collateral damage, the standing of the siblings.


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LHY and his wife is in HKG. I guess KP in HKG 20th year anniversary of PRC rule. There are going to be alot of VIPs travelling there to join in the celebration. Rich people has the time and $ to spend.

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Or maybe its part of OFO plan? They want people to abuse their bikes, so news agency will report it and people will be talking about the abuses and OFO bike

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LHY and his wife is in HKG. I guess KP in HKG 20th year anniversary of PRC rule. There are going to be alot of VIPs travelling there to join in the celebration. Rich people has the time and $ to spend.

Done of his biz!
I don't think it is over . In fact may be more to come. All the major news organisations will be there covering the event . It is also good for them to spend some time away from Singapore. You can do lots of things in HK .
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Really some dog still barking and show no respect to the grand master .
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now everyone is waiting for 3rd of July
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38 Oxley Road dispute: Lee Hsien Yang has not explained why Govt asked to make decision now on house, Indranee says



27 Jun 2017 01:30PM (Updated: 27 Jun 2017 01:40PM)



SINGAPORE: Mr Lee Hsien Yang has not answered the “basic question” of why the Government is being asked to decide now on whether founding Prime Minister Lee Kuan Yew’s family home at 38 Oxley Road should be demolished, Senior Minister of State for Law Indranee Rajah said on Tuesday (Jun 27).

Ms Indranee was responding to a Facebook post by Mr Lee Hsien Yang – the youngest son of Mr Lee Kuan Yew – earlier on Tuesday.

In the post, Mr Lee Hsien Yang said he and his sister, Dr Lee Wei Ling, "have never asked the Government to allow us to demolish the house now, only after Wei Ling's departure".

In her reply, Ms Indranee pointed out that in Deputy Prime Minister Teo Chee Hean’s statement on Jun 17, he had explained that a ministerial committee to decide on the fate of the house was established because the two Lee siblings wanted the Government to “commit itself immediately to demolishing the house”.

Ms Indranee again questioned why the Government was being asked to decide now, since Dr Lee is still living in the house.

“What is the urgency? This question has not been answered,” she wrote.

"As Mr Lee Hsien Yang would know, this government cannot, as a matter of principle, bind a future government that is elected by the people 20 to 30 years from now," she added.

Read more at http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/...y-govt-8981510


Why would people want to answer to her ?
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We've never asked Govt to let us demolish 38 Oxley Road house now: Lee Hsien Yang


27 Jun 2017 09:18AM (Updated: 27 Jun 2017 12:56PM)




SINGAPORE: Responding to comments by Senior Minister of State for Law Indranee Rajah, Mr Lee Hsien Yang said on Tuesday (Jun 27) that he and his sister, Dr Lee Wei Ling, had never asked the Government to allow them to demolish founding Prime Minister Lee Kuan Yew’s family home now.

In a post on Monday, Ms Indranee listed four possible options for the house at 38 Oxley Road – demolition, preservation, conservation and compulsory acquisition – and questioned why Mr Lee Hsien Yang wanted "immediate commitment" on demolition since Dr Lee is still living in the house.

“The Government has publicly stated that it will respect those wishes and does not intend to do anything until Dr Lee leaves,” she wrote, pointing out that letting the property stand, for now, does not go against the wishes of the late Mr Lee.

In response, Mr Lee Hsien Yang said: "We have never asked the Government to allow us to demolish the house now, only after Wei Ling's departure."

He also questioned again why the "secret committee" on the house was formed in 2016.

The youngest son of founding Prime Minister Lee Kuan Yew said beyond the committee's opening letters, it was "focused primarily on parroting (Prime Minister) Lee Hsien Loong's attacks on our father's will".

Mr Lee Hsien Yang also claimed that an earlier proposal by him and Dr Lee, the executors of their father's estate, had been rejected by their brother PM Lee.

"Long before the committee was formed, we offered to (Deputy Prime Minister Teo Chee Hean) that the house be demolished after Wei Ling's departure, and a memorial garden be built in its place. DPM Teo was reluctant and did not pursue the discussion further. Lee Hsien Loong also rejected this offer," he said.

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