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[woail2]

Originally Posted by saabking

It is even easier for one dominant party to be a self serving big bully.
Yes, you may be comfortable now..but would your children be? They will be competing with FT, PR and "new citizens" for a place in school, in university, for a seat in MRT, and for a roof over their head?

wa sei! you ah-hia out there are like grass-root leaders caring about politics man.
I also wan to say something lah. I 100% support PAP policy for bringing in so many pretty PRC talents into GL. It has made many of us ah-ti, ah-hia, ah-peh so happy.
I am sure many of us ti-ko-peh & hum-sup-guai are very much happier than during the last election.
Our MM already warned us, you vote PAP out, you suffer the consequences in the next 5 years. So I appeal to all bros plz dont vote PAP out of GL constituency, or else one day whole GL may be closed down suddenly! This is a very serious consequence man!

We should vote in PAP and suggest to PAP to rebuild GL into a more vibrant entertainment complex, with multi-storey leisure parks, having all kinds of massages & services, tiger shows......Oh ya, also 24hr clinics, in case some bros sprain their backs doing some precarious stunts..

[joew2005]

Originally Posted by saabking

It is even easier for one dominant party to be a self serving big bully.
Yes, you may be comfortable now..but would your children be? They will be competing with FT, PR and "new citizens" for a place in school, in university, for a seat in MRT, and for a roof over their head?

so how confident r u tat the "good opposition" k do a better job ??
it is veri easy 4 those outside the box 2 talk big, on hw things should be done inside the box. u need 2 know a thing,it is not easy 2 govern a country.

pls do not 4get tat when Sir Raffles founded sg in 1819, there were only malays on tis small red dot. All the others were immigrants ... or new citzens @ tat time.

if u believe tat the "good opposition" k stop the influx of FT, PR or new citzens,then tat would be the end of tis small red dot.

there r so many jobs tat the high class ppl of tis small red dot doesn't 1 2 do, eg :general workers & even project management ppl @ construction sites,sale assistants & etc.
sg ppl only 1 8 to 5 job, 5 day week & in an air-con environment ...

u must not live in your own world.
when the children start competing with others @ a young age, it would only benefit them in the long run.
How 2 compete in the world when u don't even dare compete in your own backyard, let along say 2 win it.

if their results r good enough 4 a spot in a school, they shouldn't be afraid 2 compete with the ft, pr & "new citizens".

As 4 a seat in the MRT train, would it kill u if u don't hv a seat in tis train ?
u k wait 4 the next train. It's not end of the world.

If our children k win the others, then a roof over their head is only a matter of when. u cannot expect tat everytime u buy/sell a flat, u will make $.

we need 2 learn fr the best all over the world, so tat we k improve & move 2 a higher level.

[spoutingpig]

Alamak... it's true that it's way off topic now... anyway, so it's ok to share this infos or not? Since I didn't get any straight answer, I might just share to those bros by PM who's interested... Up me to show your support ba!!

[Alejandro88]

Originally Posted by joew2005

Why must the area tat i m staying be sacrifice, so as 2 give way 2 some so-call good opposition 2 "question the ruling party's accountability, responsibilities & also check on their policies" ?

when you work in a mnc or even a sme, do u question the accountability of the company's profit fr your superiors or bosses ?
as long as u r paid yr salary @ the end of each month,wat more do u 1 2 ask 4 ??
when it's due 2 give out bonuses, they would try 2 give out watever base on the profit margin achieved.
If u r not happy with the salary or the bonus payout, suggest u go look 4 another job.

Your analogy is incorrect here. The one who pays the salaries to the Ministers are the Taxpayers. Citizens and corporations are actually the bosses of the Ministers. But the Ministers are tasked to growth the reserves. If they lost money in investment, they should be obligated to make know to the public why, when, where and how. The Government should therefore be transparent in this aspect and all citizens have the right to know.

Originally Posted by joew2005

2 many ppl thinks & believe tat it is their responsibility 2 question the government on how 2 manage the country's $.
Commoners should be contented 2 hv a roof over their head & bread on the table.
The mention of "u r always @ the mercy of the ruling party" is not totally their fault. We made & vote them 2 wat they r 2day.
I wouldn't think it's a good move 2 rock the boat now, when most ppl hv a roof over their head & bread on the table now.
Wat kind of roof over 1s head & wat type of food on the table depends on the capability of each individual.
U cannot hv 1 set of standard 4 every1 on tis small red dot.

If everyone thought like you, there is no improvement, brudder!

There are alot of commoners who are suffering and struggling now in the light of the high inflation, and the Ministers are less empathetic and yet the PM raised the Ministers salaries from S$1.2M to S$2.2M a year! This is atrocious!!

We are not asking the ruling party to be replaced completely. All we need is a few oppositions occupying the seats in Parliament so as to seek accountability, transparency and responsibility. If not, we are all forever in the dark!

Originally Posted by joew2005

2 speak with "alot of substance" on certain issue is 1 thing, but tat doesn't necessary imply tat he/she is taking good care of the welfare of the ppl.

It's easy 2 talk .....

With the PAP as the ruling party, you think the commoners life has improved since 5 years ago? The income gap between the commoners and the rich is getting bigger and bigger, my dear brudder!

[joew2005]

hi Alejandro88,hw r u living now ? should be ok.
If not, why do u still hv the spare time & resources 2 talk abt getting good opposition 2 check on the government ?

wat u said is not totally correct.
the salaries of the ministers r fr the Taxpayers, so hw much did u paid 4 yr last income tax, S$1 million ??
the mnc r actually the 1 tat paid the most corporate tax 2 iras.
jz becos u paid some income tax, it does not imply tat u r bosses of the ministers.
the 1 2 kbkb abt the taxes should be the mnc & the super high earners, not common ppl like u & of course me.

FYI, an income tax is a tax levied on the income of individuals or businesses (corporations or other legal entities). When the tax is levied on the income of companies, it is often called a corporate tax, corporate income tax, or profit tax.
Therefore, tax is not a donation.

the ministers r tasked 2 OVERSEA the growth of the reserves.
In an investment, there is no 100% sure win.
so r u implying tat citizens hv the rite 2 knw where every single CENT is spent ??
tis is a big corporation investment,not simply like go market 2 buy vege ...

If every1 thinks like u,sg would definitely not improve.

now the issue is abt inflation & the rising cost.
sg ppls' standard living has definiteky risen ... alot.
last time a few yrs then go 4 an oversea vacation, nowadays k go a few trips in a year.
the issue is alot of sg ppl r not living within their means.

agree tat sg ministers r veri high paid, but remember tat if u pay peanuts u get monkey.
with their high pay,their responsibilities r huge but they hv no more excuses 2 go undertable.

4 the last 20+ yrs, we had @ least 2 opposition rep in parliament.
I did not see them doing much or voicing out much.
so much 4 having opposition in parliament 2 seek accountability,transparency & responsibility.

With the PAP as the ruling party, wat makes u think tat the commoners' living standard didn't improve in the last 5 yrs ago?
so many ppl r having @ least a vehicle. If they r not better off, they should hv stick 2 taking the public transport instead.
so many young couples with only 1 children r staying in bigger flats. If they r not better off, they should stick 2 staying in a 3 room or 4 room hdb flats instead.

The income gap betw the commoners & the rich is getting bigger everywhere.
in a democratic society, it's up 2 each individual 2 earn their living.
u cannot expect the gov 2 keep pulling down the income of the rich ppl, & @ the same time pulling up the income of the commoners(tat r not doing much).
u cannot expect the gov 2 spoon feed u everytime & everything.

In every democratic society, there will be rich & normal ppl so tat those in the lower block would strive 2 grow & be better.

on 1 hand, u 1 2 let the gov plan & give u a good/easy life.
on the other hand, u 1 2 keep questioning their actions.

in a mnc, there r also other share holders beside the main.
the company is growing & hv alot of orders in the book.
during the agm, as long as the share holders get paid dividends they would be contented.

Sg has definitely develop in the last 20 yrs, no doubt abt tat.
B4 the commoners question the gov, they should question themselve 1s.
r their life better, if not why more ppl r upgrading 2 bigger flats.
why r there more cars on the road ?
if they find difficulty in maintaining their bigger flats or their vehicles, then the problem lies in themselve.

[Alejandro88]

Originally Posted by joew2005

hi Alejandro88,hw r u living now ? should be ok.
If not, why do u still hv the spare time & resources 2 talk abt getting good opposition 2 check on the government ?

wat u said is not totally correct.
the salaries of the ministers r fr the Taxpayers, so hw much did u paid 4 yr last income tax, S$1 million ??
the mnc r actually the 1 tat paid the most corporate tax 2 iras.
jz becos u paid some income tax, it does not imply tat u r bosses of the ministers.
the 1 2 kbkb abt the taxes should be the mnc & the super high earners, not common ppl like u & of course me.

I'm afraid I have to stop this topic although I may not agree with what you said almost 75%, someone have zapped me for invading this thread with out of topic postings.

BTW, I pay huge tax every year.

Bye for now!

[joew2005]

Originally Posted by Alejandro88

I'm afraid I have to stop this topic although I may not agree with what you said almost 75%, someone have zapped me for invading this thread with out of topic postings.

BTW, I pay huge tax every year.

Bye for now!

if u realli pay huge taxes every year, u wouldn't be so free 2 post here.
2 each hv their opinion ... including the sob tat zap.

[Alejandro88]

Originally Posted by joew2005

if u realli pay huge taxes every year, u wouldn't be so free 2 post here.2 each hv their opinion ... including the sob tat zap.

I make use of ppl to work hard for the money for me. I dun use my legs and hands too often but I surely use my brain alot. Do you know there is a thing called Fund Management and Wealth Management?? Patronizing GL is only one of my hobbies, to be frank. You will understand if one day you were in my position.

[woail2]

Originally Posted by Alejandro88

I'm afraid I have to stop this topic although I may not agree with what you said almost 75%, someone have zapped me for invading this thread with out of topic postings.

BTW, I pay huge tax every year.

Bye for now!

waliao, bro Ale88, I can empathise with u lah. If our garmen gives us more tax rebate, then we will it pass on to our beloved PRC WL in GL for them to rebuild their mud houses somewhere in remote part of China lah. Tiao-bo-tiao?

[woail2]

Originally Posted by Alejandro88

I make use of ppl to work hard for the money for me. I dun use my legs and hands too often but I surely use my brain alot. Do you know there is a thing called Fund Management and Wealth Management?? Patronizing GL is only one of my hobbies, to be frank. You will understand if one day you were in my position.

haha bro Ale88, I have heard from a WL sometime ago that her prized customer works in some big USA bank and in front of his office got a big bull, and he is very rich. You seem to fit the profile leh.

[joew2005]

Alejandro88,alot of ppl k talk big behind the monitor ... like u & me.
didn't knw tat sbf has becum a place 4 high flyers ... like u & some high class ppl.
2 be frank 2 u, i will nvr understand u ... no matter which day.
becos i don't 1 2 be like u ..... dreaming in yr own world.



Royal.Chimp,the 1 tat is sleeping is u.
don't knw wat u mean by the gov dun give a damn 2 middle income taxpayers' $? who said tat they don't give a damn ?
u k read & understand properly ??

if u 1 2 compare sg with brunei, then u r realli sleeping
brunei has alot of natural resources, wat do we hv ?
with available natural resources, they k generate revenue easily.
we don't hv any natural resources, so where 2 generate the revenue ??
if u think brunei is a better place than sg, why don't u jz migrate there.

the cost of owning a vehicle is also go up everytime, why r sg ppl still buying it ??

k u tell us hw many zeros r involved here ??
jz fyi,alot of high flyers in these int mnc r facing fraud investigations.

[drekman]

What about foreign immigrants ?

[drekman]

Alejandro88, firstly u are a mother fucker. U fuck around. So u criticize the government. U can go n die becos u fuck around.

[spoutingpig]

Yo guys, anyone interested to share something about this thread is started for??

[joew2005]

hi ape, u hv problem understanding simple english.

try 2 understand the meaning of "most" & "tax".

as 4 ale88 & of course u, both of u k continue 2 bluff yrself & act high class in yr own world ...

u k bluff the world, but not yrself.

but then u guys r so pathetic & pitiful.