Mass Orgy reported in news

[donut88]

We may like porn and fantasy but must have lines drawn.

In another thread, ppl are sharing own wife's or gfs photos for others to see. I just don't feel comfortable with it. This will lead to other things

[Jabba]

This is playing with fire.

[Suharto]

Originally Posted by plok

Because when the rape occured, she was drugged and unconscious thus unaware?

Then where is the toxicology report to prove?

[Suharto]

Originally Posted by Hurricane88

I am glad that the Singapore Courts kept us safe and kept criminals away.

You feel safe? Even your most famous lawyer in singapore subhas anandan was wrongly convicted, see below

[
In March 1976,[17] Anandan was arrested by the police for suspected involvement in a secret society under the Criminal Law (Temporary Provisions) Act.[18] He was released from remand and exonerated in November of the same year following an investigation by the Corrupt Practices Investigation Bureau.[19]
]

[
While Anandan was critical of some aspects of the criminal justice system in Singapore, he believed that the system had to be followed. He also had a personal mantra of "the most heinous offenders deserve their day in a court of law"; hence Anandan had claimed to have never rejected cases because of the offence the person had been charged with.[16][21]
]

Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subhas_Anandan

He became a lawyer because he knew the system in and out, and the singapore court system is clownish, such cases will not even see the light of day in USA, let alone indonesia

[Suharto]

Bapak will rebut you point by point

Originally Posted by Depraved

One who grasp the facts of the case won’t ask these questions because the answers are fairly obvious. For some reason you keep trying to undermine the facts with your whataboutism and strawmen arguments.

The facts are there to see for all since you said strawman argument means there is already reasonable doubt, that itself is enough for dismissal

Originally Posted by Depraved

So many factors stopping women from coming forward. From shame to straight up not knowing. Even the one victim who reported only found out she was raped by chance when she discovered her husbands text chat. And this was years AFTER those rapes had taken place. It was hard enough for one victim to discover, and you are here crying that the other victims aren’t able to magically come to that knowledge as well?

This is a court of law not a aunt agony session, its what you can prove in court that matters, and this is why they were never convicted of rape but attempted rape.

Anyone can be arrested and charged on attempted crime, they are basically being charged on a thought crime. This way if at work you praise a woman, she can claim attempted sexual harrasment, its stupid on many levels

Originally Posted by Depraved

How do you know if they did or did not? Even if they did, it would be under wraps as their identities would be protected. This case was brought to light by 1 victim who had evidence (text messages), so the reporting focused on that.

Court documents showed none, they were convicted on the confession, this means the judge is a full scale idiot

Originally Posted by Depraved

The others confessed but the wifes said they were drugged, where is the toxicology report?
Let me get this straight, you want the toxicology report for drugs they were fed up to 7 years ago? Yeah, okay, sure. The government’s time traveling CSI ppl sure are incompetent. Buhuhu, taxmoney wasted and all that.

So simple answer is tiada betul? So if no toxicology report how do they know they were drugged? Who sold them the drug? Did the police nab the seller? Did he say he sold to them, all answers point to no. This is why in many countries there is a law called statute of limitations, this means that after a number of years that person cannot be charged else people can charge you for rape in the 1960s when you are already in your 90s and senile.

Originally Posted by Depraved

Fuck, I dunno. Maybe because she was drugged to the point of non-consciousness when it happened? Even if she woke up sore, she could just have chalked it up to her and husband getting randy when drunk. What woman wants to draw the conclusion that their significant other invited ppl to rape her?

Very good answer, if you do not know, how will the judge know? He was there? He never asks this questions, these itself are grounds for appeal

Originally Posted by Depraved

At this point it is fairly clear that for some reason, you are just spouting off these questions without actually reading the article. She did report to police. That’s how this whole case came to be.

Read the article again, the one that reported rape was not the 7 year lady, it was the lady that found her nudes on the telegram channel. So again why did the rest not report to the police? why? This is what the judge must ask

Originally Posted by Depraved

Again, baseless and unsubstantiated. You keep insinuating that she knew it all along when the facts of the case shows she only discovered it recently through her husbands’s chats. Is that so hard to accept?

Lets assume you are right on this, then why no police report on her husband? That itself will throw out the narrative that she did not know, this questions the judge must ask them

Originally Posted by Depraved

No, this is called ‘your process’ in your fantasy world where women are psychic who knows what is happening when they are unconscious and the police can send CSI teams back in time to do a tox screen.

Then how they know it happened? Just lijke the indon lawyer for one of the man said, his client has been talking about it since 2010, now its 2022, 12 years and he still talking about it? Means he was never going to act on it, he was simply a talk cock king, should all show offs also be arrested? He is now jailed on a thought crime

Originally Posted by Depraved

Well, ideally, when planning a swinging party, you would have correspondence with all involved which showed that they were all consenting parties.

Most of them are using space cards so that will be difficult to prove in court, this is why the judge must ask for the rape kit to made, and judge each kits on their merits and dismiss the cases that have no merit

Originally Posted by Depraved

And not something like, I dunno, gloating about drugging your wife and letting other ppl have their way with her, which is the very legal definition of rape. So to answer your question, ‘What is to make sure your partner will not turn on you and cry rape?’ How about not broadcasting the fact you helped ppl rape your wife in chats? Is that too hard?

Some people like to over boast, i got do this and do that, but all fiction, its common for that to happen online especially in a sex forum, but in a court of law it must be proven beyond a reasonable doubt

Originally Posted by Depraved

Yeah, that’s just called being effective. A person admits guilt, means no contest, means move on to sentencing. Why the heck do you need 3 overpaid government stooges to sit there discussing the finer points of waving a gavel when the defendant already admit to the crime?

Your singapore police have a record of make fake statements from witness see below

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https://www.todayonline.com/singapor...ements-1929676

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapo...ion-portraying

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapo...ged-statements
]

Since in your singapore have done this many time where the police always make fake witness statements, how do we know their plea was not coerced? This is why the judge must ask those questions before accepting the guilty plea and if the questions cannot be answered then he must set a trial where the accused must face their accusers whether in a shadow box or in person, this way the lawyer can strike down all the narratives in court

Originally Posted by Depraved

Rape happened years ago also cannot do rape kit test.

Bingo my singaporean friend, so if there is no rape kit or evidence how do we know it happened then? Just because the women say so?

Originally Posted by Depraved

trying to distract people from facts by throwing wild accusations and red herrings in all directions

Maybe indonesians and singaporeans are different, indon citizens like myself do not like injustice to be done to anyone, singaporeans seems to want to live under a dictatorship while almost whole of asia has already gotten rid of theirs.

You cannot allow injustice to happen in your country even if the criminal is an idiot because today if they can do this someone else they will do it another person, tmrw they can accuse you on attempted rape on your postings on this forum too, attempted only thought crime

[raxip]

Look, these guys are not exactly naive innocent young boibois. They are BD managers, company directors etc, what is known in Chinese as lamps that are not fuel-saving.

If they feel that they have a realistic chance of avoiding jailtime (which is going to be very long), they would have lawyered up and claimed trial. The fact that they pleaded guilty is probably to save the family from being hurt even more when the evidence is clear to see.

Videos and photos are very incriminating, and it seems these guys have recorded a bunch to convict themselves many times over.

I don't care what Indon justice system is, and why some self-proclaimed Indon-loving person is here to start politicizing and shooting his/her mouth around, but this case is quite clear for most reasonable people to see. Maybe you have some grudge against the system. I don't blame you, but you do you. Just don't do someone without his/her consent.

[candle2000]

Originally Posted by JacqueMerlin

.......................................
Many of us are here because we don't have that special someone. And they have that someone yet they drug them to be raped by someone? I really cannot understand what is wrong with them.

You are right Bro, many of us have no one to give us a comfortable and physical
love and copulation . Yet they do not want to treasure their partners/spouses.

I had mentioned before that a pussy-in-hand is worth thousand walking in the street. Never give away or share the faithful pussy solely for you.

[Depraved]

Aduhai bapak, ur rebuttal flimsy as hell.

The facts are there to see for all since you said strawman argument means there is already reasonable doubt, that itself is enough for dismissal
LMAO. The one making strawmen argument is you. Since when is strawmen argument any grounds for reasonable doubt? If anything it just proves your argument is nowhere reasonable. This is detracting from your arguments, not supporting it.

This is a court of law not a aunt agony session, its what you can prove in court that matters, and this is why they were never convicted of rape but attempted rape.
So what’s your point? The evidence is sufficient for that charge and they readily plead guilty to that charge, so that wraps up that charge. That's how the law works. Probably still got other charges pending. And so what if it is attempted rape? Still rapist la. A guy force Bapak to bend over and tickle Bapak’s asshole with his dick, to Bapak, that guy still a saint la?

Anyone can be arrested and charged on attempted crime, they are basically being charged on a thought crime. This way if at work you praise a woman, she can claim attempted sexual harrasment, its stupid on many levels
Aiyo Bapak, cannot like dis. Just because u stupid, cannot say others is stupid. Just because you cannot tell the difference between a faux pass and actually drugging and getting your wife raped while telling it all in your chats, doesn’ mean it is stupid on so many levels. Maybe on Bapak’s level lah.

Court documents showed none, they were convicted on the confession, this means the judge is a full scale idiot
Bapak live in imaginary world again. Does Bapak even know what a confession is? It is the criminal admitting to his own guilt. Dah admit, then the judge can proceed lah. Why Bapak complain about judge doing his job? It is not that difficult to understand Bapak. Admit guilty = sentenced as guilty. Doh.

So simple answer is tiada betul? So if no toxicology report how do they know they were drugged? Who sold them the drug? Did the police nab the seller? Did he say he sold to them, all answers point to no. This is why in many countries there is a law called statute of limitations, this means that after a number of years that person cannot be charged else people can charge you for rape in the 1960s when you are already in your 90s and senile.
Aduhai no lah Bapak, simple answer is, tox report is not relevant here. Neither is all the stuff Bapak mentioned, because again, the wife-rapist confessed to drugging his wife in his text messages and then plead guilty to in in court. See point above. Also thanks to Bapak’s kawan, the notorious drug rapist Bill Cosby, many states in US exclude rape from statute of limitations oledi. I guess Bapak’s good ol era coming to an end la, is that why Bapak mad?

Very good answer, if you do not know, how will the judge know? He was there? He never asks this questions, these itself are grounds for appeal
I really worry for Bapak’s mental health. Now Bapak expects judge to not only be psychic, but act like a lawyer? I think Bapak confused with judges from Judge Dredd from Bapak’s time. The judge doesn’t have to know shit. The judge’s job is to sit there and listen to both sides in impartiality. How the Judge know? Obviously the prosecution present the text messages. How the judge decide? Obviously because the defendant plead guilty. Case closed. Judge is not there to investigate. Grounds of appeal and all that shit is the defendant’s lawyer’s job to initiate, which again, is moot because the lawyer’s client himself decided to plea guilty.

Read the article again, the one that reported rape was not the 7 year lady, it was the lady that found her nudes on the telegram channel. So again why did the rest not report to the police? why? This is what the judge must ask
No leh Bapak. Do you think if a serial rapist rape Bapak’s backside, as long as all his other victims remain quiet, Bapak’s case cannot proceed issit? Don’t worry Bapak, court can decide case by case one. Other victims case boleh investigate and prosecute at their own pace because got their own challenges. Other people kena assrape has nothing to do with Bapak’s assrape. This is especially so if the serial rapists text messages showed himself gloating about how lovely Bapak’s ass felt on his cock. Plus if the serial rapist confess to it in court, lagi Slam Dunk case. Bapak’s ass will get justice first among all the other asses. That’s a good thing, Bapak.

Lets assume you are right on this, then why no police report on her husband? That itself will throw out the narrative that she did not know, this questions the judge must ask them
What Bapak mean? If no police report, how this case go to court? If you’re talking about documentation, I can onli assume it is because of the gag order.

Then how they know it happened? Just lijke the indon lawyer for one of the man said, his client has been talking about it since 2010, now its 2022, 12 years and he still talking about it? Means he was never going to act on it, he was simply a talk cock king, should all show offs also be arrested? He is now jailed on a thought crime
Aiya purposely ignoring the obvious again. How they know it happened? Because in his chat he admit it happen, and in court he admit again he did it. That’s not thought crime. That’s confessed crime.

Most of them are using space cards so that will be difficult to prove in court, this is why the judge must ask for the rape kit to made, and judge each kits on their merits and dismiss the cases that have no merit
Again Bapak’s brain going liao. Or maybe Bapak doesn’ know rape kits don’t work on rapes that happened after significant time has passed? Let’s use the example of Bapak’s Ass-rapist again. If Bapak’s ass kena raped a year ago and the rape kit cannot detect anything because Bapak’s ass love to absorb cum and any rectal damage has been long soothed by the amount of shit that passed through it, what good is that rape kit test? It’s a pointless test, and thus cannot be used to ascertain anything.

Some people like to over boast, i got do this and do that, but all fiction, its common for that to happen online especially in a sex forum, but in a court of law it must be proven beyond a reasonable doubt
It was totally proved beyond reasonable doubt. Again, the guy plead guilty. It can’ get more provable than that.

Since in your singapore have done this many time where the police always make fake witness statements, how do we know their plea was not coerced? This is why the judge must ask those questions before accepting the guilty plea and if the questions cannot be answered then he must set a trial where the accused must face their accusers whether in a shadow box or in person, this way the lawyer can strike down all the narratives in court
I not Singaporean. You provide three articles out of literally hundreds of cases that happen every year, and your conclusion is Singapore police “ALWAYS” make false statements? No lah Bapak, u need to do better than that. And again, no, judge don’t need to do all of that. If guy wants to face his accusers and do all those stuff, there is already a way. It’s called pleading “Not Guilty.”

Bingo my singaporean friend, so if there is no rape kit or evidence how do we know it happened then? Just because the women say so?
Again, not Singa. And again, Bapak, put on your reading glasses and start takig english lessons again if your ingerris not vely good, we know it happened because of the man’s chats. You may say he talk cock, but the man himself says no, he totally did it. And when presented the chance to challenge the charge, he plead guilty. In the face of those overwhelming evidence, there is no need to even entertain the notion of goin back in time to do a rape kit test.

Maybe indonesians and singaporeans are different, indon citizens like myself do not like injustice to be done to anyone, singaporeans seems to want to live under a dictatorship while almost whole of asia has already gotten rid of theirs.
You cannot allow injustice to happen in your country even if the criminal is an idiot because today if they can do this someone else they will do it another person, tmrw they can accuse you on attempted rape on your postings on this forum too, attempted only thought crime
Foooyoh. Bapak take a simple open-and-shut case and go full real-politik with it. Truly your biggest strawman yet. But it seems like Bapak onli don’t like injustice for very specific subset of people that Bapak like to geng with leh. Bapak cannot put yourself in the woman’s shoes and consider the injustice done to her if her rapists walk off scott free ah? Really cannot get Bapak’s logic here. Be careful of punishing criminals for their crimes in case one day you get caught doing the crime and get punished too? Yeah, no shit. That’s the whole point we have a justice system.

Originally Posted by Suharto

Bapak will rebut you point by point



The facts are there to see for all since you said strawman argument means there is already reasonable doubt, that itself is enough for dismissal




This is a court of law not a aunt agony session, its what you can prove in court that matters, and this is why they were never convicted of rape but attempted rape.

Anyone can be arrested and charged on attempted crime, they are basically being charged on a thought crime. This way if at work you praise a woman, she can claim attempted sexual harrasment, its stupid on many levels



Court documents showed none, they were convicted on the confession, this means the judge is a full scale idiot



So simple answer is tiada betul? So if no toxicology report how do they know they were drugged? Who sold them the drug? Did the police nab the seller? Did he say he sold to them, all answers point to no. This is why in many countries there is a law called statute of limitations, this means that after a number of years that person cannot be charged else people can charge you for rape in the 1960s when you are already in your 90s and senile.




Very good answer, if you do not know, how will the judge know? He was there? He never asks this questions, these itself are grounds for appeal



Read the article again, the one that reported rape was not the 7 year lady, it was the lady that found her nudes on the telegram channel. So again why did the rest not report to the police? why? This is what the judge must ask



Lets assume you are right on this, then why no police report on her husband? That itself will throw out the narrative that she did not know, this questions the judge must ask them



Then how they know it happened? Just lijke the indon lawyer for one of the man said, his client has been talking about it since 2010, now its 2022, 12 years and he still talking about it? Means he was never going to act on it, he was simply a talk cock king, should all show offs also be arrested? He is now jailed on a thought crime



Most of them are using space cards so that will be difficult to prove in court, this is why the judge must ask for the rape kit to made, and judge each kits on their merits and dismiss the cases that have no merit



Some people like to over boast, i got do this and do that, but all fiction, its common for that to happen online especially in a sex forum, but in a court of law it must be proven beyond a reasonable doubt



Your singapore police have a record of make fake statements from witness see below

[
https://www.todayonline.com/singapor...ements-1929676

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapo...ion-portraying

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapo...ged-statements
]

Since in your singapore have done this many time where the police always make fake witness statements, how do we know their plea was not coerced? This is why the judge must ask those questions before accepting the guilty plea and if the questions cannot be answered then he must set a trial where the accused must face their accusers whether in a shadow box or in person, this way the lawyer can strike down all the narratives in court



Bingo my singaporean friend, so if there is no rape kit or evidence how do we know it happened then? Just because the women say so?



Maybe indonesians and singaporeans are different, indon citizens like myself do not like injustice to be done to anyone, singaporeans seems to want to live under a dictatorship while almost whole of asia has already gotten rid of theirs.

You cannot allow injustice to happen in your country even if the criminal is an idiot because today if they can do this someone else they will do it another person, tmrw they can accuse you on attempted rape on your postings on this forum too, attempted only thought crime

[Xgenre]

Originally Posted by plok

Because when the rape occured, she was drugged and unconscious thus unaware?

Originally Posted by Depraved

Aduhai bapak, ur rebuttal flimsy as hell.

Guys, please stop feeding the troll. We can never out-logic illogical people. For whatever he is saying, he will not dare to come to Singapore to rape someone. He will never dare to ask the SPF to produce a toxilogy or whatever cock report he is suggesting. He is actually not that interested in this case.

Please also be more aware of the side-plot developing in this thread. His extreme positions in this thread provides a perfect setting for his clones to up his points. He only had 56 points when he made his first post in this thread. So if the moderator probes why the points for his nick increase by at least 500 points since then, it will appear as if many people agree with his extreme posts and up his points. The things people do or say for forum points... isn't surprising anymore.

Suharto, just do what you wish to do. No need to slam Singapore in the process. You don't see us slamming Indonesia in our replies right? Knowing when to shut up takes a high level of intelligence.

Originally Posted by Hurricane88

I am glad that the Singapore Courts kept us safe and kept criminals away.

I agree with you totally. We are lucky to be living in the safety Singapore provides. As forum moderator, I think you can verify what I posted about his points right? I think we just let him be lah. Points also cannot be exchanged for goods

[Hurricane88]

Originally Posted by Suharto

You feel safe? Even your most famous lawyer in singapore subhas anandan was wrongly convicted, see below

[
In March 1976,[17] Anandan was arrested by the police for suspected involvement in a secret society under the Criminal Law (Temporary Provisions) Act.[18] He was released from remand and exonerated in November of the same year following an investigation by the Corrupt Practices Investigation Bureau.[19]
]

When anyone became too famous and trying to undermine the justice in Singapore...be it he is a top lawyer, he will be investigated when there is a criminal evidence leading to conviction...

We normal citizens felt safe becos we dun break gahment policies...or simply hurt anyone feelings...

[Hurricane88]

Originally Posted by Xgenre

I agree with you totally. We are lucky to be living in the safety Singapore provides. As forum moderator, I think you can verify what I posted about his points right? I think we just let him be lah. Points also cannot be exchanged for goods

This is a forum and a place whereby anyone can say anything so long no flaming vulgarities and break sbf rules...I am ok with him expressing his views...I dun believe and agree with whatever he written...so just read with open mind...

BTW, he did post in points exchange threads and so reason why he was upped >500 points...

[Suharto]

Originally Posted by Xgenre

Guys, please stop feeding the troll. We can never out-logic illogical people

Yes true bapak is a troll from indonesia, bapak love you too

Originally Posted by Xgenre

He will never dare to ask the SPF to produce a toxilogy or whatever cock report he is suggesting. He is actually not that interested in this case.

That is the problem with the justice in sg, its so skewed to the point a judge is unable to validate the due process, whether a person is guilty or innocent, there must be a due process, sg courts is setup more to be like a communist tribunal where the accused is not allowed to defend himself at all

Originally Posted by Xgenre

Please also be more aware of the side-plot developing in this thread. His extreme positions in this thread

Why is it extreme? Just because bapak pointed out the lack of evidence to convict? If they were guilty of rape then why charged with attempted rape? Because simply there was no rape in the first place, because with the charges of rape they would have to to bring out the rape kit, which will show zero evidence

Originally Posted by Xgenre

No need to slam Singapore in the process. You don't see us slamming Indonesia in our replies right?

Nobody is slamming the country but simply pointing out inaccuracies in the justice system in sg, the justice system must be fair to all and not used as a tool to justify the ends

Originally Posted by Xgenre

We are lucky to be living in the safety Singapore provides.

SG is far from safe, looks only safe because most of the crimes are censored

[Suharto]

Once again Bapak will rebut you point by point again

Originally Posted by Depraved

Aduhai bapak, ur rebuttal flimsy as hell.
If anything it just proves your argument is nowhere reasonable. This is detracting from your arguments, not supporting it

No issue if you do not subscribe to bapak's view, but you must ask the question why were they convicted of lesser crimes of the attempted nature when actually by you own post they have admitted and be charged for rape?
Reason is simply there was no evidence in the first case besides a self confession which can be easily coerced

Originally Posted by Depraved

So what’s your point? The evidence is sufficient for that charge and they readily plead guilty to that charge, so that wraps up that charge. That's how the law works. Probably still got other charges pending. And so what if it is attempted rape? Still rapist la. A guy force Bapak to bend over and tickle Bapak’s asshole with his dick, to Bapak, that guy still a saint la?

But bapak will make police report in indon, and indon police will send bapak to hospital to make a rape kit

Problem now comes these were all not available to be struck down why? The judge must ask the question even if he hates the criminals because its his job as a judge which is due lacking

Originally Posted by Depraved

BJust because you cannot tell the difference between a faux pass and actually drugging and getting your wife raped while telling it all in your chats, doesn’ mean it is stupid on so many levels. Maybe on Bapak’s level lah.

Then where is toxicology report showing they were drugged? If not, who sold them the pills? Did the seller ID them? If no body ID them and there is not toxicology report then how do we know they were drugged? Because they say so?

Originally Posted by Depraved

live in imaginary world again. Does Bapak even know what a confession is? It is the criminal admitting to his own guilt. Dah admit, then the judge can proceed lah.

No a judge cannot simply accept a guilty plea. Some people may have low iq or even paid sums of money to take blame or for other reasons, so the judge in the interest of the law in sg must ask those questions and if he cannot get the answers then set a trial where those questions can be answered with cross examinations

Originally Posted by Depraved

no lah Bapak, simple answer is, tox report is not relevant here. Neither is all the stuff Bapak mentioned, because again, the wife-rapist confessed to drugging his wife in his text messages and then plead guilty to in in court

This part is very intriguing, because the wife said, she saw the videos on her husbands phone, how did she know his password? She sent the videos herself or someone else sent it? These are questions that must be naswered

Originally Posted by Depraved

the notorious drug rapist Bill Cosby, many states in US exclude rape from statute of limitations oledi. I guess Bapak’s good ol era coming to an end la, is that why Bapak mad?

Bapak very glad you bring this up, because what happened end of the day? His conviction was overturned by the supreme court due to lack of evidence

https://apnews.com/article/why-was-b...4b1c58a2b6e583

This is also a possibility here is sg, because it seems that if they go to appeal in the court, the case might be thrown out in appeal, but bapak have no trust in the SG court system as it is clownish

Originally Posted by Depraved

The judge doesn’t have to know shit

Then become judge for what better go sell kuih at pasar malam, the judge in this case neglected in his duty, any other country he will be impeached and removed from the bench

Originally Posted by Depraved

What Bapak mean? If no police report, how this case go to court?

They track the so called victims to scare them even though it might have been consensual. So question again rises if she was raped, why did the rest of the women not make any police report? Why?

Originally Posted by Depraved

purposely ignoring the obvious again. How they know it happened? Because in his chat he admit it happen, and in court he admit again he did it. That’s not thought crime. That’s confessed crime.

But how does the public not know that the confession was no coerced? SG has a reputation of police make false testimonies and false statements. This is why the judge must ask before accepting any pleas to make sure the the confession is legitimate and not coerced

Originally Posted by Depraved

Again Bapak’s brain going liao. Or maybe Bapak doesn’ know rape kits don’t work on rapes that happened after significant time has passed?

Thank you for proving bapak's point so that means there was no evidence of rape since the kit did not exist, so how in the world did the judge convict them? This type of conviction does not even happen in china and its communist

Originally Posted by Depraved

If guy wants to face his accusers and do all those stuff, there is already a way. It’s called pleading “Not Guilty.”

But what if he is uneducated or of low iq? This is why the judge must ask the questions on his behalf and if the questions cannot be answered a trial is set

Originally Posted by Depraved

You may say he talk cock, but the man himself says no, he totally did it.

That is according to his indon lawyer not me

Originally Posted by Depraved

cannot put yourself in the woman’s shoes and consider the injustice done to her if her rapists walk off scott free ah?

But how do we know she is not a disgruntled wife making up stories? This is why the judge must ask the questions, the judge is derelict in his duty and should be impeached and removed from the bench

Originally Posted by Depraved

That’s the whole point we have a justice system.

Yes you do but its a clownish one, worst than a communist tribunal

[Hurricane88]

Well quite harsh punishment...not sure those idiosyncrasies worth it..

https://tnp.straitstimes.com/news/si...d-135-years-22

The 20 strokes rotan will be painful...

[Xgenre]

Quite confusing to read. The worst guy J has yet to be sentenced. His wife kenna raped the most by different guys it seems. Over a period of 8 years.