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[(.)(.) lover]

Originally Posted by superman888

Thanks for the info. Seems like not much to look forward to.

When she said cannot lick and kiss, I knew don’t have any porn feel but I still go ahead as this might be the only time I had with an JAV star whom I watched most of her videos.

[Dundee2]

But her boobs are the main selling point, not being able to touch them is like getting married but not being able to consummate the marriage.

Bummer of a day don't you hate it when your booking gets cancelled due to reasons you cannot control and the replacement you go for is just meh.

[Loser---]

Originally Posted by blitzkriegg

I am not an expert on this subject by any means. But anyway the short answer for you is that there are many factors which come into play to arrive at the price a JAV actress is advertised at - and whether she has an active filming contract with any AV production agency has very little to no bearing on her price.

Firstly, the JAV industry is very unlike the idol or gravure industry where there is a huge premium on youth. Or unlike the パパ活 Sugar daddy market where the demand is overwhelmingly towards young girls. In JAV, where OLs or MILFs are also very much appreciated - many women debut much older and also reach very high levels of popularity in JAV and thus the FL market. So whether the actress has an active filming contract is much less relevant because it's unlike idols who debut when they are still junior high school students in Japan, peak early and generally retire in their mid 20s. Peak popularity matters much more than whether the lady has an active filming contract.

Secondly, there are thousands of women working in the JAV industry at any point of time. Their value in the industry varies widely. Having an AV film doesn't mean much - what AV production agency were her films produced by? What are her Fanza rankings for each film? What was her career high Fanza ranking? Was she already a famous gravure model, idol or fashion model before crossing over to JAV? etc. At the top end - thousands of girls apply and interview for the top AV production agencies every year. S1 No.1 Style only selects 1 to debut every month. They can't be compared with women at the lower end whose films are produced by small agencies which can be poorly made and have low sales. Also, quality over quantity. A JAV actress from S1 with only 30 films but all widely popular and ranked within the top 50 of Fanza's rankings is definitely valued way more than a JAV actress with 150 films from a small unknown production agency and films did not generate much sales.

Thirdly, the same JAV actress would have a different price between each agent, shop, or freelance that she takes a job from. She would also have very widely different prices in each country/region that she works in - Japan, Taiwan, HK, Singapore, Australia and many other places. The people involved, the business model and many other factors come into play.

Fourth, the lady is a human being. Not a pokemon card. Even with all the market knowledge in the JAV industry and price data across all the cities that JAV actresses work in - one would still find that the popularity/price does not have that strong a correlation.

If a lady has good financial management, she can request a high wage for herself and only accept 1 customer per month in Tokyo. If a lady has a Pachinko addiction or host she wants to support, she might be all over the world accepting much lower wages.

Ultimately, each customer should decide for themselves what they are willing to pay or walk away from. I have seen JAV actresses in SG priced at $800 whom I think are overpriced, but I also have seen JAV actresses in SG priced at $2500 whom I think are underpriced.

But as I mentioned early on, I am by no means an expert. These are just my $0.02. Cheers.

Thank you so much for the detailed and informative post bro , I have gained much knowledge from your wisdom!

Also, just my 2 cents' worth: Since some JAV actresses are generally hookers from soaplands before becoming porn actresses, could this have a bearing on their pricing as well?

As in , JAV actress who were hookers before probably charge less as compared to those JAV actresses who were never in the vice trade?

For example, the expressionless Ria Yamate from S1 was from a soapload before she became a porn star

[sayana]

Originally Posted by Loser---

Are you referring to purely just JAV actresses offered by this OKT , or are you referring to ALL the ladies offered by this OKT?

Thanks bro!

I'm referring to all girls. I've tried only to AV girls. I am inclined to think that non-AV girls offer better value for money.

[sayana]

Originally Posted by (.)(.) lover

Since you asked, this is my experience of her. Up front she will mention she don’t allow kissing and licking of boobs. She can touch you but you cannot touch her.

Try to touch her boobs while she is blowing. She rejected and said now she was servicing and let her do her job. Wait till FJ later then can touch.

I've had similar experience with another JAV actress. Absolutely not allowed to touch boobs, which I find ridiculous given the price. I've never encountered prostitute who doesn't allow to touch boobs. My dick immediately went limp and she was angry, scolding me in Japanese. OKT was apologetic, offered me discounts for next session and gave me regular customer privileges. It's main reason I prefer non-AV Japanese girls.

[Trafalgar]

Originally Posted by Loser---

Thank you so much for the detailed and informative post bro , I have gained much knowledge from your wisdom!

Also, just my 2 cents' worth: Since some JAV actresses are generally hookers from soaplands before becoming porn actresses, could this have a bearing on their pricing as well?

As in , JAV actress who were hookers before probably charge less as compared to those JAV actresses who were never in the vice trade?

For example, the expressionless Ria Yamate from S1 was from a soapload before she became a porn star

Dang bro, you happen to have info on the soapland Yamate Ria is working at now? Ya I'm aware of the criticism levelled at her acting but I'm a huge fan of her face and venus body.

Generally these girls raise their own profile through exposure in JAV and can command a premium in the shops they work in. Haven't visited any establishments in Japan before but from visiting some of the sites, JAV girls are usually priced at a different tier.

[Loser---]

Originally Posted by Trafalgar

Dang bro, you happen to have info on the soapland Yamate Ria is working at now? Ya I'm aware of the criticism levelled at her acting but I'm a huge fan of her face and venus body.

Generally these girls raise their own profile through exposure in JAV and can command a premium in the shops they work in. Haven't visited any establishments in Japan before but from visiting some of the sites, JAV girls are usually priced at a different tier.

Sorry bro, what I meant to say was that she used to work in a soapland before transitioning into porn.

Don't think she has stayed in a soapland since she entered S1, given the money and effort the porn agency has spent on marketing her, they probably wouldn't want to cheapen her by allowing to remain as a hooker and restrict her porn fanbase.